Comments on: All in Energy vs XS Energy

By: suncadia

suncadia — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:48:59 +0000

The people that still question the WWDB (Duncans), selling their homes in Montana or losing them in Montana may not realize that these properties were business investments. At the time these investments were being made, I am sure the bank was on board and all looked GREAT! Then, when the _ _ _ _ hit the fan… (Approx. October, 2007), values started nose diving at record pace. EVERYONE’s Investments in real estate were affected. (NOT JUST WWDB DUNCANS. We know millionaires not tied to WWDB and they are losing their beautiful homes because they cannot borrow other money to renew their nottes, because the banks are not lending! This is how are country has been run… all on credit. I am sure that the Duncan’s are all smart enough to secure their families future with cash paid assets. Those investments purchased on credit that were not at risk will not affect them having a beautiful home over their head in which they have all worked hard for. I undoubtedly think that the Duncan’s have made people think about what their time is really worth! The average salary in the USA is around $45K per year. Whoopi! We would stare on that. That is horrible salary to trade your time for. The real estate investments made by the Duncans really has nothing to do with the oppty. in the Amway Business. The smart business person needs to come out at a time like this and not be emotional but look at the situation from a business perspective. If the investment is a losing battle, it is a losing battle! Let it go! I do not know anyone who feels sorry for the banks. They are and have been the biggest deceptors, greedy mongrul crooks of ALL TIME! Some of these blogs actually indicate sympathy that the bank is left holding the bag. (Unbelievable). Makes me think that these are bankers writing these blogs, making $50-$100K/year. Whoopi again! The banks had interest in the property as well, probably more and they made the business decision to invest. Therefore, let them have it back. Case Closed. Move On! Look to the future! Don’t reflect on the past, or you WILL NOT move forward. Good luck to all of you out there.

By: BruxausXSLover

BruxausXSLover — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:11:09 +0000

I am not a professional on this matter by no meens, but I do have an opinion, and from what I know about opinions they don’t meen much. What I do know is that I am glad I have something to work towards. Several of my friends with good maybe even excellent paying jobs have had their 401k’s taken away from them and their health insurance as well, including myself. All I can really say is that I am glad I have an alternative source of income. Selling products that I can stand behind and be proud of. Am I glad that the Duncans have decided to back a competitor? No. But I, in their position, would probably do the same thing.
To many people gripe about this industry in my opinion, but the fact of the matter is I know a few people who have put forth the effort and are seeing great rewards. I am not sure that this business can ever replace my fulltime income, but isn’t it great to dream? I find it tiring to try and defend myself against they naysayers, but I do understand that it is a good fight and that has all I have ever wanted to be a part of.
I have yet to come across a speaker that is a diamond who says this business does not require great effort. My Grandpa would tell me the same thing about high risk loans 10 years ago. Hell, even Donald Trump would go into this business if given a second chance. That is not from my opinion, but his mouth. To anybody who has ever been involved in this business and hears that as a diamond you have to put in a full weeks work to maintain that diamondship; so what!! You are still living the good life, helping other people pay their bills, or get free, and you don’t have a boss breathing down your neck..
I get a kick out of all these negative postings saying “These guys, gals, or couples have to work 40 hours a week or more to make a dream happen” like thats a bad thing. Most of us work more than that just to pay our bills. Get a grip naysayers, stop squashing dreams or get a work ethic! And thats all I have to say about that.

God bless me if I make 6,000 a month which seems pretty common for the people I am involved with.

By: ibofightback

ibofightback — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:10:09 +0000

If they just sold a home for 8 million it doesn’t sound like their falling too hard at all.

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:23:12 +0000

These folks(Duncan) Brag about how great of businessmen they are and can not pay their own Bills. Brab Sold his Whitefish home for 8 millon dollars. The man who bought it Sold it the next Day for 12 Millon. No matter how much Money you make You must spend less than you make. Spend more than you are making you Go Broke. That is what happened to the Duncans. All five of the Whitefish home have for sale signs in front of them. A texas lender now holds the titles and the y are all for Sale . I just Drove past them at 1:30 pm Today Aug. 18 2009. The bigger they are t he Harder they fall

By: Ken

Ken — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:44:21 +0000

I’m not in WWDB or in Amway/Quixtar, but I do know something of Greg Duncan. Greg has been a mentor for me…from afar, and I could not recommend a better man to take business advice from. I’ve been impressed with his priorities centering on his family and his beliefs, and of his willingness to help those in business with him. Even to those just looking into possibly getting into a business, find somebody who can put you into contact with Greg or be in a place to hear what he has to say, and you’ll hear some things that will convict you and likely motivate you to do good things.

By: Travis

Travis — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:41:25 +0000

It is sad to see how bitter some people are over there experiences and how much they want to make arguments to convince others why they will fail too. I had my share of bad experiences when i was in the army; didn’t get into jobs/units i wanted to and could have made legitimate excuses that it had a lot to do with bias on the instuctors/evaluators and information being selectively given. However, i accepted that i did not pass for a reason and was not bitter when others did. I always encouraged others who wanted to try similar things stating experiences of the people who SUCCEEDED as people they should talk to. At least be honest enough with people to refer them to someone else if you know that you wont be of help to them. If you can’t be honest with yourself….. well, life’s going to be hard and you’re going to be bitter about many things on your death bed, which is no way to live.

By: James

James — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:06:09 +0000

Just a quick follow up… My bigger objection would be the family oriented focus of WWDB/WWG and the image Greg is sending to families and young people. When you stand on stage and publicly address that you are a born-again Christian and talk about family values, then go out and promote an energy drink through the poker world…. Alot of families have been hurt by gambling addictions, not to mentions the bible specifically talks about not gambling and games of chance. I don’t doubt Greg’s savvy or entreprenurial spirit, I just think he’s wandering down a quagmire of a trail that may leave his downline scratching their heads. Noticeably absent from the ownership group are any of his family members, including Brad.

By: James

James — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:07:23 +0000

I don’t care one way or the other what Greg does so long as it doesn’t hurt people in the business. I know many highly successfull people outside of “the business” who have made a ton of coin. Most of them, while on the way up or once they’ve had some significant success, diversify. They look for trends to capitalize on and invest some of their bank on larger projects. I’d say starting a beverage company/beverage line would qualify. No one talks much about how over the years many of the large pins have gone into developing real estate… or maybe no one knew…

As far as tapes/CD’s/Functions/etc… I don’t care if they make money on them so long as it benefits the IBO. My longstanding opinion has been if the money is so good in the sale of tools, quit bitching about it and go platinum and beyond and take part in the profits. That’s why people go into business…. to make a profit.

Thanks for all the interesting tidbits, ibofightback, good stuff!

By: I B O Free!

I B O Free! — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:47:21 +0000

Hey, all you other IBOs here – have you heard what Greg & his team have done with XS now? The secret isn’t out yet, but you can watch this site for XSciting news!
https://app.e2ma.net/app/view:CampaignPublic/id:10421.1272507714/rid:c3ca82a5e7d569008d31c71f9b9a7321

By: I B O Free!

I B O Free! — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:36:44 +0000

WOW!
We are actually discussing something worthy of our attention – the debate concerning Greg Duncan & AllinEnergy vs. XS!
OK, I just read the Amthrax article. Hmmmm…. let me see if I can make sense of what was stated.
XS & AllinEnergy are competitors? I agree. My customers who purchase XS from me can also purchase Red Bull, Amp, AllinEnergy, or any other “energy” drink they desire. All of the drinks in the “energy” category are competitors. So what? What is the problem?
Now, to make the situation a little more clear, it seems that the “trouble” is that Greg is a Q/A IBO. As I stated above & yesterday, what possible difference can that make? XS is only marketed thru IBOs, while AllinEnergy is marketed OTC. Who cares? It is like complaining about an IBO who sells SA8 owning stock in Proctor & Gamble, which makes Tide laundry detergent. What “IS” the problem?

Now, as far as Greg or any other IBO marketing CDs, functions, products that make them a profit – what is the problem? Have you ever attended a Zig Ziglar, Peter Lowe, John Maxwell, or Brian Tracy seminar? I have. It is hard to compare the price of those seminars & the price of their CDs, books & other materials to the prices that are charged at WWDB – Q/A functions. There simply is no comparison. The outside functions & materials cost more – plenty more. Do they have value? Of course they do. When Zig speaks and I buy one of his CDs or books does he make a profit? Of course! He is a businessman. Do those seminars, books, CDs & other materials help me to improve my life? Yes, when I apply the information presented. I have material from all of these men in my home, and they have all helped me. I also have many CDs from my Q/A biz that have helped me immensely to improve as a person. If Greg or Dean or Rod or Ron or any other diamond makes $ on that, so be it. The value I have received from that material is many times what I have paid for it.

One thing that has always continued to attract me to Q/A is that “ANYONE” can participate & make $ in this biz. Not only that, but whenever I ask for help, I receive it. And guess what? Neither Shane nor Greg has ever charged me for their help. Can you say the same about your place of employment? I cannot. Not only is the playing field not level, but the shape of the organization is definitely many at the bottom, graduating to one at the top – yep, a pyramid! I may live to be 100, but my chance of becoming CEO of this corp. is less than 1%. (Not that I am trying mind you, I’ve got a better deal going on the outside!) So, if Greg has a product in the same genre and markets it independently of Q/A, I say Go for it! He is still helping thousands of people to grow independent Q/A businesses and providing them a way to improve their life if they desire to.

I applaud Greg and others who spend their time & money freely on others, whose contributions to organizations like Goad International and others make a huge difference in relief efforts around the world. I hope that my life will be as positive an example to my family, friends, neighbors, coworkers & others as Greg’s life has.