Comments on: Amway Global Accreditation: transformation or a sad joke?

By: ibofightback

ibofightback — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:02:00 +0000

Your argument might have some validity if McEwen had even remotely taught anything like that. The reality is there is no significant political movement anywhere in the western world, let alone the US, that believe’s governments or employers are responsible for your success. McEwen clearly creates the Democrats as a scary straw man and implies that voting for them would lead the US in the path to slavery. Not to mention the various outright falsehoods he espouses in arenas like climate change. It was a clear political speech by a well known republican encouraging people to vote republican. Anyone claiming otherwise is being dishonest to themselves, if no one else.

By: L Martin

L Martin — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:15:50 +0000

The truth is ones view politically does effect their ability to succeed. Not from a standpoint of being Democrat or Repulican but from the perspect of believing if you or someone else, meaning the government or an employer are responsible for your you success. If you have the view that it is the government or an employers responsibility to provide for you then you’ll not shoulder the responsibility for yourself and go produce. This is in fact the problem with our country… most people have begun to believe that. If no the other hand you believe that you alone are responsible for your your success then you’ll move forward shoulder the responsibility build a business (any business) and succeed.
So the long and short is that Bob McEwen’s is very appropriate for a business training meeting on how succeed in business.

By: ibofightback

ibofightback — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:17:47 +0000

Steve, do you really believe it is acting with integrity to be explictly breaking Amway’s rules? I’m also curious how many other countries you’ve lived in to make your judgements about the differences between the US and other countries?

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:32:39 +0000

After reading everyones comments, it safe to say that the bottom line it always comes down to what your world view really is and if you are a born again Christian that is guided by the truths of the bible. It comes down to values. If you are a christian you will be encouraged and thankful to hear what Bob Mcwean is teaching. I think it is so sad, that adults who do not share the same world view just want to shut up people like Mr. Mcwean. Of course this is the best place to hear what mis informed politicians can do to hurt or help our freedoms and your business. The fact is he was right about Obama, wasn’t he and his team (Obamas)are committed to taking this country towrads socialism as fast as he can. If that does not concern you, then you have no business being in business becuase you don’t get what free Enterprise is about. What sepaerates America from any other Nation -is the freedoms we enjoy. This isn’t about who to vote for or not vote for -unless your already sold on more governemnet control -but its about more FREEDOM – and most people are not engaged in politics as they should and thats why we are in this mess today. When your business gets big enough and when the love for your family gets big enough – then you too will want more people to know the truth – why is it that liberals always want to shut up Christians and conservatives, but christians and conservatives – want to engage in peacful discusion – becuase we do want to change your mind – just maybe our founding ftahers had it right! For the record, i am not in the amwasy business anymore, and many things went wrong with people and leaders – but i understood seperating the people who make mistakes and who are sinners by nature, and a business opportunity that is backed by a company thrtying to do their best. I have now found a better vehicle, that pays much more and is not based on having to change peoples buying habits to buy more expensive products. Plus we do not charge the new reps for training. We are on our way to becoming the biggest Network marketing company in the world!
So I wish you well – the best way to preach freedom – is go out and build your business tonoght!

By: Bizman

Bizman — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:01:03 +0000

As a Quixtar IBO since the beginning (9-1-99 until 12/31/07) my view on the conferences is that in the beginning they were very valuable, with training on sponsoring, building a business, selling products, and great information on all the latest products each year. Toward the end our LOS became affiliated with TEAM and the emphasis was more on building TEAM and the importance of the tools. As such, I felt they had lost their value but continued to attend due to pressure from upline.

About the time that I actually started making money (profitable after expenses!!) We got the rug pulled out from under us when Woodward and Brady were terminated and our own LOS elected to follow them. My downline was destroyed by my upline.

Now I have a new MLM business with an old, established company. The leaders for the most part have had prior experience with Amway and have learned how to be successful out of the gate, without spending a lot of money on training. In fact, virtually all the training and tools are provided to us at no cost. My mentor was an Amway Platinum with very little net income after expenses, and after changing companies he retired from his J-O-B in less than two years.

I still think of my Q* upline as being mostly honorable people, but not inclined to question anything. I learned a lot, met some wonderful people, but had I changed companies sooner I would have been better off, financially.

By: ibofightback

ibofightback — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:56:49 +0000

How do you “lose everything” because of Amway, Paul? Unless your actively breaking the rules you don’t spend large money on inventory, and there are few non-discretionary expenses.

By: paul leite

paul leite — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:23:59 +0000

I have meet yager in the late 1990s at a rally here in australia.all he spoke about was his old girlfrends, dreams all the spin.birdy was off with the fairies and spoils the sunday morning music cocert by going on about how wifes should look after their hubbies and kids.I was told later by my upline dou ble diamond she was a bit eccentric?what a waste of good money.anyway amway destroyed my family.Four people lost everything.god help us all.

By: Annie

Annie — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 05:39:38 +0000

Hey guys, I’m a fairly new IBO (been in it about a month now), and I didn’t really have time to read all of the comments but i got half way through and then skimmed the rest. But anyway, I have heard some bad things about Amway and how its a scam from my extended family, but I have found my experience to be nothing but good up to this point. I’m on Marcowitz’s LTD team, and all of my upline to whom i have come into contact with has been nothing but respectful and very professional. Most of my upline are Christians and I feel privilaged that they are so, but it was not the first thing I learned of them, although their character pointed very much so in that direction. they have not gone out of their way to push their beliefs on me. I feel privileged to be on Ruby-going-Platinum Colin Wood’s team. Oh, and I’m going to my first function – Impact ‘09, and i’m very much looking forward to it!

By: ibofightback

ibofightback — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:35:39 +0000

businessbacker, I don't want to get into a political debate (again), enough of that happened on Amway Talk regarding this topic, however your comments regard socialism and free enterprise only apply to the "extreme left". The great majority of social democratic political parties and countries around the world, including the Democrats in the US, are fully behind the concept of free enterprise.

By: businessbacker

businessbacker — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 05:42:02 +0000

You are correct. It is very difficult to seperate the passion for FREE Enterprise from the Republican party. Why is that? The Republic party believes that the FREE market can dictate who makes money and does not. That there should be little or no government intervention. And since it is a meeting of Independant Business Owners, many of the platforms a business owner would support are that of the Republican party. FREE Enterprise is the exact opposite of a socialism agenda.