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		<title>By: David Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 06:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,

I was in Amway from 2002-2005, and I can tell you without question that the reason I didn&#039;t make the money I wanted was my own fault.  Amway was great - I needed to develop the skills to develop a large network.  The truth is that Amway distributors are more skilled at creating loyal organizations of people than any group of people I&#039;ve ever ran into in my life, and I respect them for it more than almost any group of people in the world, even though I choose to pursue other options at this point in time.

Sure, after 3 years of painstaking hard work I had a grand total of 2500 pv, but the fact is - I would have had more if I had developed greater skill.

-David Wood

P.S.  one thought - although I understand the &#039;roulette&#039; comparison, Amway diamonds earn a significantly higher income than the average person, so a more fair comparison would be comparing the odds of going diamond to the odds of any single person in the united states becoming a millionaire.  Most adults set out with the intention of making more money than they do.  For example, people with a net worth of a million dollars according to wikipedia are 0.62% of the population.  Now granted, that&#039;s still more of the population that are millionaires than diamonds, but diamonds have some pretty cool lifestyles.  

Rather than BASHING what the average person doesn&#039;t do - why not commend the diamonds in Amway for becoming a 1 in 8333 kind of person?  That takes some gusto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>I was in Amway from 2002-2005, and I can tell you without question that the reason I didn&#8217;t make the money I wanted was my own fault.  Amway was great &#8211; I needed to develop the skills to develop a large network.  The truth is that Amway distributors are more skilled at creating loyal organizations of people than any group of people I&#8217;ve ever ran into in my life, and I respect them for it more than almost any group of people in the world, even though I choose to pursue other options at this point in time.</p>
<p>Sure, after 3 years of painstaking hard work I had a grand total of 2500 pv, but the fact is &#8211; I would have had more if I had developed greater skill.</p>
<p>-David Wood</p>
<p>P.S.  one thought &#8211; although I understand the &#8216;roulette&#8217; comparison, Amway diamonds earn a significantly higher income than the average person, so a more fair comparison would be comparing the odds of going diamond to the odds of any single person in the united states becoming a millionaire.  Most adults set out with the intention of making more money than they do.  For example, people with a net worth of a million dollars according to wikipedia are 0.62% of the population.  Now granted, that&#8217;s still more of the population that are millionaires than diamonds, but diamonds have some pretty cool lifestyles.  </p>
<p>Rather than BASHING what the average person doesn&#8217;t do &#8211; why not commend the diamonds in Amway for becoming a 1 in 8333 kind of person?  That takes some gusto.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as your determination drives this business, just because you follow the plan of ANY business does not mean you are going to be successful.  It is certainly a possibility to make money with Amway, but it&#039;s not a guarantee even with determination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as your determination drives this business, just because you follow the plan of ANY business does not mean you are going to be successful.  It is certainly a possibility to make money with Amway, but it&#8217;s not a guarantee even with determination.</p>
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		<title>By: ibofightback</title>
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		<dc:creator>ibofightback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nazgul, this is a business. Chance plays virtually no role. If you think it does, then I suggest you do not start ANY business. What facts do you disagree with in my analysis?

As for the &quot;success road map&quot;, I&#039;m not the one to ask. It&#039;s a different road map for different people. If your plan is to setup a webshop and hope people come to you, then I frankly doubt you&#039;ll have much success. As you say, you can&#039;t easily and well explain the products benefits compared to the competitors. That&#039;s essentially the role of the IBO, if you&#039;re not willing to do it, then don&#039;t expect to succeed in the role. Having said that, people skills are a skill, not a talent. You can learn them if you want to. IMO, they&#039;re crucial for success in virtually all aspects of life, from relationships to jobs, to business. You might want to consider the benefits of improving in this facet! IMO Amway groups are some of the best in the world at teaching this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nazgul, this is a business. Chance plays virtually no role. If you think it does, then I suggest you do not start ANY business. What facts do you disagree with in my analysis?</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;success road map&#8221;, I&#8217;m not the one to ask. It&#8217;s a different road map for different people. If your plan is to setup a webshop and hope people come to you, then I frankly doubt you&#8217;ll have much success. As you say, you can&#8217;t easily and well explain the products benefits compared to the competitors. That&#8217;s essentially the role of the IBO, if you&#8217;re not willing to do it, then don&#8217;t expect to succeed in the role. Having said that, people skills are a skill, not a talent. You can learn them if you want to. IMO, they&#8217;re crucial for success in virtually all aspects of life, from relationships to jobs, to business. You might want to consider the benefits of improving in this facet! IMO Amway groups are some of the best in the world at teaching this.</p>
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		<title>By: nazgul</title>
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		<dc:creator>nazgul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IBOFB though your post says that the Phd guys stats were not true tot he facts, i must say i didnt find much fact finding in your analysis also. 
In the end ur stated chance are some 1 in 35 at the best and its still not competitive to sitting on a table in Vegas with a roulette having 29 numbers.
Though i must concur that the chances and % for achieving success depends on many factors in real life and i personally feel that business success depends on the business owner and not on the business.
But still you haven&#039;t stated the success road map for amway. Am personally not good at people tackling skills and sweet talks (even if its with correct figures and facts) and if i join amway, would depend mostly (say 90%) on sales that my website and/or retail store (which i may open after joining amway) generates. How in your experience and opinion would this business pave a road ahead for likes of me considering its mostly difficult to explain the reasons for high cost of products to customers on a website and also in a shop.
Please do reply me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IBOFB though your post says that the Phd guys stats were not true tot he facts, i must say i didnt find much fact finding in your analysis also.<br />
In the end ur stated chance are some 1 in 35 at the best and its still not competitive to sitting on a table in Vegas with a roulette having 29 numbers.<br />
Though i must concur that the chances and % for achieving success depends on many factors in real life and i personally feel that business success depends on the business owner and not on the business.<br />
But still you haven&#8217;t stated the success road map for amway. Am personally not good at people tackling skills and sweet talks (even if its with correct figures and facts) and if i join amway, would depend mostly (say 90%) on sales that my website and/or retail store (which i may open after joining amway) generates. How in your experience and opinion would this business pave a road ahead for likes of me considering its mostly difficult to explain the reasons for high cost of products to customers on a website and also in a shop.<br />
Please do reply me.</p>
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		<title>By: conan</title>
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		<dc:creator>conan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 06:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i recently joined amway. second month in business. And honestly i have a great team. i get the fact that to be successful in amway you may need to turn all your liabilities into assets. Even your time, friends, and words. the pricing is reasonable, the partner stores are credible. the discounts are  awesome. The business is simple, but people are complicated. im currently working hard to dumb it down. lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recently joined amway. second month in business. And honestly i have a great team. i get the fact that to be successful in amway you may need to turn all your liabilities into assets. Even your time, friends, and words. the pricing is reasonable, the partner stores are credible. the discounts are  awesome. The business is simple, but people are complicated. im currently working hard to dumb it down. lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those people who focus on &quot;odds&quot; clearly do not see the big picture.

Unfortunately, business opportunities such as Amway/Quixtar attracts people who want to make money the easy because of the promises... and that is simply not the case.  As with anything that has the potential to earn you a lot of money, you have to work HARD (make connections, talk to people, sell your products like your life depends on it, etc.).  You have to have a game plan, otherwise you won&#039;t make any money.  Sell=profit... find atleast one person who is willing to work hard=profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those people who focus on &#8220;odds&#8221; clearly do not see the big picture.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, business opportunities such as Amway/Quixtar attracts people who want to make money the easy because of the promises&#8230; and that is simply not the case.  As with anything that has the potential to earn you a lot of money, you have to work HARD (make connections, talk to people, sell your products like your life depends on it, etc.).  You have to have a game plan, otherwise you won&#8217;t make any money.  Sell=profit&#8230; find atleast one person who is willing to work hard=profit.</p>
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		<title>By: ibofightback</title>
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		<dc:creator>ibofightback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YLW - I have good reason to suspect most of that &quot;bunch of whiners&quot; was the same person. I seem to annoy them :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YLW &#8211; I have good reason to suspect most of that &#8220;bunch of whiners&#8221; was the same person. I seem to annoy them <img src='http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: YearLongWeekend</title>
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		<dc:creator>YearLongWeekend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap what a bunch of whiners.

Great article man. 

The people who say things can never be done should get out of the way of the people who are doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap what a bunch of whiners.</p>
<p>Great article man. </p>
<p>The people who say things can never be done should get out of the way of the people who are doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: UCLAexpose</title>
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		<dc:creator>UCLAexpose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IBO Fight Back,

This is a very well written article. I got bored reading through the first half of comments, but your article was a good read. Having advanced degrees in the Sciences, logic comes very easy to me, and there is nothing wrong with your logic, however i see no logic in the arguments. The methodology was fine. 

Your critics call your article a long explanation, but have clearly never seen what &quot;long&quot; is...  Try having to prove an experiment worked, the 3,000th time. 

-UCLA expose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IBO Fight Back,</p>
<p>This is a very well written article. I got bored reading through the first half of comments, but your article was a good read. Having advanced degrees in the Sciences, logic comes very easy to me, and there is nothing wrong with your logic, however i see no logic in the arguments. The methodology was fine. </p>
<p>Your critics call your article a long explanation, but have clearly never seen what &#8220;long&#8221; is&#8230;  Try having to prove an experiment worked, the 3,000th time. </p>
<p>-UCLA expose</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline Ang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline Ang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been following this website for quite some time and I believe that Amway does work. I have heard about Amway since I was young, and married a man who was a member for almost 10 years, because he believed in the products (his first wife died of cancer and he was looking for good quality vitamins) and as a businessman, he also saw the opportunity and over the years, he had built a steadily growing network (retention rate 80%) and also, the income is inheritable (my 3 stepsons and their generations to come will benefit from this gift of perpetual income). 

I married him last year and refused to have anythng to do with Amway as I didn&#039;t like direct selling or mlm and never believed that I could do it, but after visiting Vietnam, and seeing the business opportunity and how fair this business, equal opportunity regardless of whether you are young or poor, old or rich...and in Malaysia where I come from, we have many Diamonds, some of whom qualified at 26 years old and now I reside in Brunei...small population of 391,000 inclusive of foreigners. Despite this size, our business is growing faster than ever, despite the recession. 

Most importantly, having beginning to be active in this business since March 2008, I have myself personally put in about 60 people, and seen more than half making some income...which helps cover some of their vitamins cost and some even make extra income. 

One of my friends just lost his job last month due to the recession, and having joined our network 5 months ago, he has a small sum of Amway income every month since the last 3 months. It may not be huge income...yet...but it is money chasing after you, especially when you are down and broke and don&#039;t have a job.

We believe that Amway can help change some peoples&#039; lives, if only they try to do something about the opportunity. Yet, sadly, most sit still, do nothing and complain that Amway is a scam etc when they DIDN&#039;T EVEN TRY. It&#039;s just like going to university. If you don&#039;t study, you may fail. In any business or in life, if you don&#039;t work hard or put in effort, how can we expect results? 

With Amway, my family enjoys steady income, great health (we are 100% users), peace of mind, gained new friends and also, more time to share with our loved ones. 

This business works. My upline joined at 29 years old and retired at 31 years old. For the last 12 years, he has never worked (and he used to be a medical doctor in hospital - long hours...what good is earning tons of money when you don&#039;t have the time to spend it...like in a conventional job?). He tells us....one of the most important benefits of this business...is that now, he has plenty of time to spend with his family. He saw his kids through delivery, goes on holidays whenever he likes (no need to wait for public holidays and peak seasons), and has since he first turned Emerald 12 years ago, been on every Amway holiday...5-star all the way. 

This is my opinion, and I will continue to build Amway and help others (those who believe that they want to do something with their lives and future) to help themselves. With Amway, I have also gained self-esteem and more confidence in myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been following this website for quite some time and I believe that Amway does work. I have heard about Amway since I was young, and married a man who was a member for almost 10 years, because he believed in the products (his first wife died of cancer and he was looking for good quality vitamins) and as a businessman, he also saw the opportunity and over the years, he had built a steadily growing network (retention rate 80%) and also, the income is inheritable (my 3 stepsons and their generations to come will benefit from this gift of perpetual income). </p>
<p>I married him last year and refused to have anythng to do with Amway as I didn&#8217;t like direct selling or mlm and never believed that I could do it, but after visiting Vietnam, and seeing the business opportunity and how fair this business, equal opportunity regardless of whether you are young or poor, old or rich&#8230;and in Malaysia where I come from, we have many Diamonds, some of whom qualified at 26 years old and now I reside in Brunei&#8230;small population of 391,000 inclusive of foreigners. Despite this size, our business is growing faster than ever, despite the recession. </p>
<p>Most importantly, having beginning to be active in this business since March 2008, I have myself personally put in about 60 people, and seen more than half making some income&#8230;which helps cover some of their vitamins cost and some even make extra income. </p>
<p>One of my friends just lost his job last month due to the recession, and having joined our network 5 months ago, he has a small sum of Amway income every month since the last 3 months. It may not be huge income&#8230;yet&#8230;but it is money chasing after you, especially when you are down and broke and don&#8217;t have a job.</p>
<p>We believe that Amway can help change some peoples&#8217; lives, if only they try to do something about the opportunity. Yet, sadly, most sit still, do nothing and complain that Amway is a scam etc when they DIDN&#8217;T EVEN TRY. It&#8217;s just like going to university. If you don&#8217;t study, you may fail. In any business or in life, if you don&#8217;t work hard or put in effort, how can we expect results? </p>
<p>With Amway, my family enjoys steady income, great health (we are 100% users), peace of mind, gained new friends and also, more time to share with our loved ones. </p>
<p>This business works. My upline joined at 29 years old and retired at 31 years old. For the last 12 years, he has never worked (and he used to be a medical doctor in hospital &#8211; long hours&#8230;what good is earning tons of money when you don&#8217;t have the time to spend it&#8230;like in a conventional job?). He tells us&#8230;.one of the most important benefits of this business&#8230;is that now, he has plenty of time to spend with his family. He saw his kids through delivery, goes on holidays whenever he likes (no need to wait for public holidays and peak seasons), and has since he first turned Emerald 12 years ago, been on every Amway holiday&#8230;5-star all the way. </p>
<p>This is my opinion, and I will continue to build Amway and help others (those who believe that they want to do something with their lives and future) to help themselves. With Amway, I have also gained self-esteem and more confidence in myself.</p>
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