Lol.

I would encourage you to do something else for a living

-dave

You do realise that your fighter pilot friend has his business continue to grow even if he isn’t part of it ?

Your upline, if they sponsor someone (even if it is a customer not an IBO), they will put that person “below” you. Even if you have never met this other person “below” you.. that person will go below you not them.

Then if this person that only your upline has met (and not you) decides to do the business – you will benefit.

I don’t know too many other businesses where someone I have never met in my life can help MY business grow ? I also didn’t experience this “team effort” aspect from the other networking companies.

As I said before, I’ll repeat:

It’s no skin off my nose if you just decide to only buy some of the products and not do the business. It’s even less skin off my nose if you don’t enroll as a shopper (not an IBO – just a shopper/consumer) … next. You may not enroll. Others will.

Just like any other business – it has turnover. You tell me a business that doesn’t have turn-over in customers not just “staff” ?

1) Whilst it is beneficial, like any business, to recruit people (in my “traditional” business there is “me” as the owner and my subbies (aka ICs) at the bottom – I recruited them yet not for Amway.. for my traditional business)… like any business it does cost time+money to recruit people.

We are paid based on SALES VOLUME .. this is an accumulation of both IBOs as well as just “customers”. It’s no skin off my nose if you don’t want to be an IBO + are happy to just buy some of the products.

2) There are a myriad of affiliate programs on the Internet – the whole “invitation only” aspect of being part of Amway is similar (in a way) to these programs such as Commission Junction, Clickbank, etc. You’re “introduced” to a lot of these places and the products by othe people Amway is no different.

3) Please reply with whom you are comparing prices. Also, you obviously weren’t explained about the 90 Day CASH BACK guarantee ? Love to see you get that guarantee at any supermarket. If you seriously don’t like a product, that’s okay. Get your money back… you’ve got 90 days from the time of purchase to do so.

As has been explained you need to compare the products to their PROPER competitors. Artistry is to never be compared with your supermarket make-up. Never. Compare it to the top end of the market brands as this is where it is aimed not at your cheap supermarket make up.

The same with Nutriway and a lot of other products. Compare them to their proper competitors.

3 a) You need to think of it as like a shopping club with an affiliate program. This isn’t unheard of these days with the internet. As mentioned, you need to get your comparisons right first before you really see the bargain you’ll be receiving.

4) You keep saying you can get our products at the supermarket for a lot less. Seriously, go for it. Buy those products. Yet DO YOUR PROPER RESEARCH ! Read the labels of each product, find out about patents, etc. If you do your proper research you’ll realise that comparing Amway products with supermarket products is doing the Amway products a disservice.

Those supermarket products are only concerned with numbers not quality. It’s about marketing in the supermarket. They don’t really give a rats ass about your health.

They can be connected with an $8 Billion US Dollar business, and have 180 days to say not for me and receive their money back?

What is the problem??? I say GO FOR IT. I am and I am using over half of all the profits to support GODs Mission that is, in March 2010, providing a FREE dental clinic to the children in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.
David

(1) No, IBOs do not get paid to recruit more people. You are correct that being paid to recruit is one of the defining characteristics of an illegal pyramid. IBOs are paid a percentage of sales volume. In fact, for any given sales volume, the more people you recruit to help obtain it, the less you will earn. It’s the same as a traditional sales business, where you might pay sales staff (an expense) in the hope the increased volume overcomes the expense and makes you more profit.
(2) You can’t buy an Amway Global “packet” from Amway, you have to be introduced by an existing member of the network.
(3) I’m not sure who you compared the prices with? Amway prides itself on quality. The two major brands we market are Artistry and Nutrilite. Artistry cosmetics are designed to compete in the “prestige” class alongside brands like Estee Lauder and Clinique. You’ll find Artistry is cheaper than the competitors, not more expensive. Similarly with Nutrilite, though in my opinion Nutrilite is a class above any other brand in the industry.
(4a) I’m not sure which post you read that implies “how easy it is to make a profit”? If so, I must rewrite it! While I guess “a profit” is easy to make, a significant profit is not. Like any other business it takes months and years of hard work to build a significant income.
(4b) Please research Amway brands thoroughly and understand which market segments we aim to compete in. In general you can not find similar products at better prices in supermarkets.
(4c) Our business model is not based on trying to get large sales contracts with organizations and businesses. While that’s possible, the model, and products, are targetted towards repeat sales to home consumers.
(4d) Amway doesn’t hold “expensive functions” or push books and tapes. You are most likely confusing things with the myriad of third party companies that have sprung up to support Amway business owners. While I haven’t checked them all obviously, in my experience the materials and seminars they provide are cheaper than comparable services available elsewhere. It’s my guess you haven’t had much experience as a business owner having to pay for these types of things yourself? In any case, if you don’t find them of value, don’t buy them. Most Amway business owners don’t – mind you, the majority of successful ABOs do use them.

1. I admit, I haven’t done much research, but I take it IBOs get paid to recruit more people? Isn’t this like a pyramid?

2. What’s stopping me from buying an Amway Global packet on me own and taking advantage of the “great” whole sale prices?

3. The prices just from buying direct whole sale on everything seemed extremely high, how could I try to sell any of these products? And what would stop a company or whoever to just register with Amway, and order the products for themselves, if they’re that good? Why would they contract through me and pay more?

4. Last. You also talked about stats in one of your blogs and had a very simplistic outlook on how easy it is to make a profit. Again, I thought the products where extremely over priced, I could get them at supermarkets for a lot less, and I would feel ashamed if I approached any organization or business, trying to win a contract. How can anyone possibly make a profit? I see Amway is also big on pushing all their books, tapes, and expensive functions as well. I may just have a different outlook than you, but I think when people join, they expect to make a little bit of money. That’s what they tried to convince me of. Not just buy products for me. What would this do? They are expensive. Does this benefit my business?

There were a lot more concerns and issues I had, but those are just some of my thoughts and questions I have, and it would be intresting to hear any thoughts. Thanks