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		<title>By: Coleen Sosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coleen Sosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 19:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, 4th sentence from the end should read: If they qualify for a bonus....</description>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AM building the business.  I applaud you for being willing to go the extra mile to help your downline.  However, you will have a herculean task of getting people in and keeping them in when you have to try to keep them in the business AND in the system when the system keeps them in a money losing position for the first year or two while they build a solid Platinum business.  

I saw what the system did to the Silver Producer leg that I developed.  It literally destroyed it because they were spending so much money on tools and functions, they were not profitable.  That leg now does only about 1,000 PV and the only ones left either quit the system or were not ever on it. If I had been using the 400 PV Personal PV Circle that I am using today, that leg would probably not only be a Platunum, it would probably be running Ruby volume.  I&#039;ll never go back to the cave man days of the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM building the business.  I applaud you for being willing to go the extra mile to help your downline.  However, you will have a herculean task of getting people in and keeping them in when you have to try to keep them in the business AND in the system when the system keeps them in a money losing position for the first year or two while they build a solid Platinum business.  </p>
<p>I saw what the system did to the Silver Producer leg that I developed.  It literally destroyed it because they were spending so much money on tools and functions, they were not profitable.  That leg now does only about 1,000 PV and the only ones left either quit the system or were not ever on it. If I had been using the 400 PV Personal PV Circle that I am using today, that leg would probably not only be a Platunum, it would probably be running Ruby volume.  I&#8217;ll never go back to the cave man days of the system.</p>
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		<title>By: WWDBKevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>WWDBKevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey,
The only reason a Diamond is a Diamond is because they help their downline succeed. If you had ever built the business to any kind of level you would realize that we as the upline work much harder for the downline than they do for themselves. I ran Platinum Plus volume last month and I can tell you I didn&#039;t withhold any secrets from my downline Ibo&#039;s and as I break my first 6 platinum’s I plan on working many times harder for my Ibo&#039;s as I help them achieve more.

You need to get out of the past and go rip this thing up. Now is a wonderful time to be building your business if that is your desire. I&#039;m sure your upline would be overjoyed to help you as long as you were serious about your desire. 

Go get em!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey,<br />
The only reason a Diamond is a Diamond is because they help their downline succeed. If you had ever built the business to any kind of level you would realize that we as the upline work much harder for the downline than they do for themselves. I ran Platinum Plus volume last month and I can tell you I didn&#8217;t withhold any secrets from my downline Ibo&#8217;s and as I break my first 6 platinum’s I plan on working many times harder for my Ibo&#8217;s as I help them achieve more.</p>
<p>You need to get out of the past and go rip this thing up. Now is a wonderful time to be building your business if that is your desire. I&#8217;m sure your upline would be overjoyed to help you as long as you were serious about your desire. </p>
<p>Go get em!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/amways-spring-cleaning-tough-decisions-and-smart-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-5526</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 19:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, maybe I do generalize a lot.  Anyway, about a year ago, I got tired of being an orphan in the business, so I bit the bullet and re-joined my upline&#039;s system.  After a while, maybe about 2 or 3 minutes, I realized that it was the same old stuff as before.  No real training materials on how to get someone started properly, outdated materials that didn&#039;t really say much of anything about the business opportunity or the products, a list of the &quot;new&quot; achievers that was literally six months old, constant relentless promotion of the next big function with $150 tickets and $99 rooms that was 658 miles away.  Whatever.  Needless to say, I didn&#039;t renew my membership.

I will admit that the problem with me having to write all my own literature is that I&#039;m a perfectionist so I will do it over and over again until I really feel comfortable with it.  Then I submit it, and the company rejects it because it isn&#039;t worded properly as to be FTC compliant.  (Ahh, The federal government--my other favorite entity--NOT.) The last time I went through this, the company and I literally sent the materials back and forth six times and it took a full six months to get it approved.  Then they let Diamonds get on stage and spew things that are not completely true like income claims, then reject a piece of literature because I said &quot;How much money do you want to earn per month?&quot; And I had to change it to &quot;How much income do you want to make?&quot;  Ridiculous.  Of course, there isn&#039;t anything that any agency of the United States government does that makes any sense, the FTC being no exception.  I guess Amway is just doing what they have to so they don&#039;t get spanked.  However, if the Diamonds would quit being so greedy and share their literature with everyone and let it be bought through the company, it would be a lot easier.  Oops, my mistake.  A business isn&#039;t supposed to be easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, maybe I do generalize a lot.  Anyway, about a year ago, I got tired of being an orphan in the business, so I bit the bullet and re-joined my upline&#8217;s system.  After a while, maybe about 2 or 3 minutes, I realized that it was the same old stuff as before.  No real training materials on how to get someone started properly, outdated materials that didn&#8217;t really say much of anything about the business opportunity or the products, a list of the &#8220;new&#8221; achievers that was literally six months old, constant relentless promotion of the next big function with $150 tickets and $99 rooms that was 658 miles away.  Whatever.  Needless to say, I didn&#8217;t renew my membership.</p>
<p>I will admit that the problem with me having to write all my own literature is that I&#8217;m a perfectionist so I will do it over and over again until I really feel comfortable with it.  Then I submit it, and the company rejects it because it isn&#8217;t worded properly as to be FTC compliant.  (Ahh, The federal government&#8211;my other favorite entity&#8211;NOT.) The last time I went through this, the company and I literally sent the materials back and forth six times and it took a full six months to get it approved.  Then they let Diamonds get on stage and spew things that are not completely true like income claims, then reject a piece of literature because I said &#8220;How much money do you want to earn per month?&#8221; And I had to change it to &#8220;How much income do you want to make?&#8221;  Ridiculous.  Of course, there isn&#8217;t anything that any agency of the United States government does that makes any sense, the FTC being no exception.  I guess Amway is just doing what they have to so they don&#8217;t get spanked.  However, if the Diamonds would quit being so greedy and share their literature with everyone and let it be bought through the company, it would be a lot easier.  Oops, my mistake.  A business isn&#8217;t supposed to be easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridgett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 12:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding your post IBOFB,

I agree that Opportunity Zone is too hard to follow, particularly because one has to subscribe to each and every blog post in order to be updated with all the comments. That makes it too time consuming to follow any/all conversations, thus making it hard to keep the conversation going.

I&#039;m pleased that the new The Amway Insider blog is set up differently--all contributors on one blog, and all comments in one feed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding your post IBOFB,</p>
<p>I agree that Opportunity Zone is too hard to follow, particularly because one has to subscribe to each and every blog post in order to be updated with all the comments. That makes it too time consuming to follow any/all conversations, thus making it hard to keep the conversation going.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pleased that the new The Amway Insider blog is set up differently&#8211;all contributors on one blog, and all comments in one feed.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridgett</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/amways-spring-cleaning-tough-decisions-and-smart-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-5523</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 12:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Jeffrey,

I&#039;m confused about what you are upset about in regards to registered customers. I have customers who have never ordered directly off my personal website, nor Amway.com. But they are still registered customers with unique customer numbers. And when I fulfill their orders &quot;offline&quot; I report that volume to their registered customer number.

1) I then have a record of what they ordered,
2) they have a receipt,
3) that volume is added to the 50PV customer requirement that is necessary in order to receive bonus money on downline differential,
4) and &quot;faking&quot; customer volume like peeps have done in the past, is minimized.

So...I&#039;m not understanding why having to assign volume to specific customers is a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jeffrey,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused about what you are upset about in regards to registered customers. I have customers who have never ordered directly off my personal website, nor Amway.com. But they are still registered customers with unique customer numbers. And when I fulfill their orders &#8220;offline&#8221; I report that volume to their registered customer number.</p>
<p>1) I then have a record of what they ordered,<br />
2) they have a receipt,<br />
3) that volume is added to the 50PV customer requirement that is necessary in order to receive bonus money on downline differential,<br />
4) and &#8220;faking&#8221; customer volume like peeps have done in the past, is minimized.</p>
<p>So&#8230;I&#8217;m not understanding why having to assign volume to specific customers is a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: ibofightback</title>
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		<dc:creator>ibofightback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 10:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey, your comments on tool income being connected to &quot;qualified once, never qualified again&quot; is overgeneralized and outtdated. Many systems *never* had that arrangement. For those that did, it&#039;s been phased it. Your claim that &quot;many&quot; make more from tools than from Amway is also highly inaccurate. In the system I work with, average yearly Diamond &quot;tool&quot; income (tapes/tickets/speaking fees/etc) is roughly 15% the average income from Amway for a Diamond. Whatever the source of your bitterness, don&#039;t take it out on everyone.

It&#039;s ironic of course that your simultaneously wanting Amway to take more control of the field while complaining about them doing so. The reason why customers have to be registered is two-fold - (a) because some leaders were apparently teaching people to fake it and (b) it&#039;s important evidence the business is a legitimate business, and helps Amway correctly set pricing.

Customers should always get a receipt, so I&#039;m really not sure why you have a problem with it.

With regard Platinums not rolling up bonuses - complain to the company, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey, your comments on tool income being connected to &#8220;qualified once, never qualified again&#8221; is overgeneralized and outtdated. Many systems *never* had that arrangement. For those that did, it&#8217;s been phased it. Your claim that &#8220;many&#8221; make more from tools than from Amway is also highly inaccurate. In the system I work with, average yearly Diamond &#8220;tool&#8221; income (tapes/tickets/speaking fees/etc) is roughly 15% the average income from Amway for a Diamond. Whatever the source of your bitterness, don&#8217;t take it out on everyone.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic of course that your simultaneously wanting Amway to take more control of the field while complaining about them doing so. The reason why customers have to be registered is two-fold &#8211; (a) because some leaders were apparently teaching people to fake it and (b) it&#8217;s important evidence the business is a legitimate business, and helps Amway correctly set pricing.</p>
<p>Customers should always get a receipt, so I&#8217;m really not sure why you have a problem with it.</p>
<p>With regard Platinums not rolling up bonuses &#8211; complain to the company, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/amways-spring-cleaning-tough-decisions-and-smart-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-5520</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 03:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, 4th sentence from the end should read: If they qualify for a bonus....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, 4th sentence from the end should read: If they qualify for a bonus&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/amways-spring-cleaning-tough-decisions-and-smart-decisions/comment-page-1/#comment-5519</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 03:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need the option of value-based or weight-based shipping for each order.  Then let us choose which one is most economical. I have never liked value-based shipping charges.  I don&#039;t know who dreamed it up but they must have been smoking something pretty potent.

If the company would get together with the Diamonds to create the tools, then the company could, for real, take over the tool production and the entire Amway organization would benefit. Know why it will never, ever happen?  The tool system is a Diamond&#039;s cash cow, especially if they qualified once and never qualified again.  That way they can keep their exorbitant lifestyle whether or not they continue building the business.  If the money comes from the business, I don&#039;t care how much they make or how they spend it, but it&#039;s no secret that many Diamonds make a lot more from tools than they make from the business.  They do it all the time and it&#039;s deceptive. An analogy: Don&#039;t try to sell me candy by telling tell me you&#039;re in the health food business because sugar cane is a natural food.  Yes, it&#039;s technically true, but not ethically true.  The Diamonds need to bite the bullet and get rid of their systems and go back to building the business by building a customer base, then branch out into sponsoring after they create a 400 PV circle, and leading by example. That way their income from the business would truly be from the business.

This one is fairly new, within the last few months.: A customer now has to be registered to have their sales count.  If they are not registered, there is no way to account for it because they took the reporting away.  The order either has to be placed directly by the customer or the IBO has to make a receipt with a customer&#039;s number for it to count.  I think it&#039;s a bunch of baloney.  It&#039;s just one more way to create a roadblock to keep people from earning a bonus.  If they qualify a bonus on their volume, for heaven&#039;s sake, pay them. If the company withholds a bonus from someone brand-new and their upline Platinum refuses to roll it up, guess what?  They&#039;re gone and they&#039;ll never come back.  And they won&#039;t go quietly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need the option of value-based or weight-based shipping for each order.  Then let us choose which one is most economical. I have never liked value-based shipping charges.  I don&#8217;t know who dreamed it up but they must have been smoking something pretty potent.</p>
<p>If the company would get together with the Diamonds to create the tools, then the company could, for real, take over the tool production and the entire Amway organization would benefit. Know why it will never, ever happen?  The tool system is a Diamond&#8217;s cash cow, especially if they qualified once and never qualified again.  That way they can keep their exorbitant lifestyle whether or not they continue building the business.  If the money comes from the business, I don&#8217;t care how much they make or how they spend it, but it&#8217;s no secret that many Diamonds make a lot more from tools than they make from the business.  They do it all the time and it&#8217;s deceptive. An analogy: Don&#8217;t try to sell me candy by telling tell me you&#8217;re in the health food business because sugar cane is a natural food.  Yes, it&#8217;s technically true, but not ethically true.  The Diamonds need to bite the bullet and get rid of their systems and go back to building the business by building a customer base, then branch out into sponsoring after they create a 400 PV circle, and leading by example. That way their income from the business would truly be from the business.</p>
<p>This one is fairly new, within the last few months.: A customer now has to be registered to have their sales count.  If they are not registered, there is no way to account for it because they took the reporting away.  The order either has to be placed directly by the customer or the IBO has to make a receipt with a customer&#8217;s number for it to count.  I think it&#8217;s a bunch of baloney.  It&#8217;s just one more way to create a roadblock to keep people from earning a bonus.  If they qualify a bonus on their volume, for heaven&#8217;s sake, pay them. If the company withholds a bonus from someone brand-new and their upline Platinum refuses to roll it up, guess what?  They&#8217;re gone and they&#8217;ll never come back.  And they won&#8217;t go quietly.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridgett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 01:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the thing about shipping...it&#039;s never FREE. Having shipped stuff myself, I am shocked at what all the companies--USPS, UPS, FEDEX Ground, etc.-- charge.

Even small stuff. I sent out a few catalogs and it cost me $5.

Shipping costs a lot of money. And so if Amway were to give everyone &quot;free&quot; shipping or $6.95 flat shipping, then they&#039;d increase the cost of each product to cover those costs.

That&#039;s what those other companies do. Nothing is free. It&#039;s a marketing gimmick for CUSTOMERS.

Because we sell &quot;heavy&quot; items like home care products and drinks (XS, Perfect Water, shakes, sports drinks, etc.) the shipping costs are pricey, because they don&#039;t separate out the heavy (laundry powder and liquids) from the light (supplements, skin care).

XS is attempting to alleviate this challenge with the palet shipping. But with that, there is then a need for a &quot;product pick up&quot; situation, as most individual IBOs don&#039;t sell 144 cases of XS that fast.

&lt;b&gt;Bridgett&#039;s suggestion: Rather than a flat or &quot;free&quot; rate, I&#039;d like to see the heavy and light have a different shipping rates. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s &quot;fair&quot; to charge the same for shipping for a 10 pound bag of SA8 as a 2 oz bottle of Rhodiola, simply because have similar price tags. ESPECIALLY when there is a higher profit margin on the supplement than the home care.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing about shipping&#8230;it&#8217;s never FREE. Having shipped stuff myself, I am shocked at what all the companies&#8211;USPS, UPS, FEDEX Ground, etc.&#8211; charge.</p>
<p>Even small stuff. I sent out a few catalogs and it cost me $5.</p>
<p>Shipping costs a lot of money. And so if Amway were to give everyone &#8220;free&#8221; shipping or $6.95 flat shipping, then they&#8217;d increase the cost of each product to cover those costs.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what those other companies do. Nothing is free. It&#8217;s a marketing gimmick for CUSTOMERS.</p>
<p>Because we sell &#8220;heavy&#8221; items like home care products and drinks (XS, Perfect Water, shakes, sports drinks, etc.) the shipping costs are pricey, because they don&#8217;t separate out the heavy (laundry powder and liquids) from the light (supplements, skin care).</p>
<p>XS is attempting to alleviate this challenge with the palet shipping. But with that, there is then a need for a &#8220;product pick up&#8221; situation, as most individual IBOs don&#8217;t sell 144 cases of XS that fast.</p>
<p><b>Bridgett&#8217;s suggestion: Rather than a flat or &#8220;free&#8221; rate, I&#8217;d like to see the heavy and light have a different shipping rates. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s &#8220;fair&#8221; to charge the same for shipping for a 10 pound bag of SA8 as a 2 oz bottle of Rhodiola, simply because have similar price tags. ESPECIALLY when there is a higher profit margin on the supplement than the home care.</b></p>
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