But then we flash forward to the last two paragraphs and its pretty shakey. The ten ingredients that speed processing of the tablets, reduce effectiveness. I am getting pretty sick of people who write these outlandish statements without some factual evidence to back it? I’d really like you to get back to us on that seriously. Also just read the label nothing about magnesium stearate just magnesium.

If Nutriway isn’t the best out there and it is indeed a scam (which is gonna be like proving the moon landing didn’t happen) then there is no clear leader in that field. Every person you ask about multi-vitamins would have a different one.

You Amway ‘truthers’ don’t know what you want. You want more people to give positive reviews about Amway but when one guy actually comes out and takes the time (and a heck of a lot of patience) to explain it to you then you accuse him of being a PR rep?

Face it, you guys are gone and not coming back. That’s all there is to it. I honestly don’t have the patience to do what ibofightback does because of people like you. Nothing moves those types of people, apart from maybe a grenade.

So let’s see what you’re doing. First you complain about Amway concealing the source manufacturers for their “brands”. What a load of utter BS. What are Amway’s brands? #1 is Nutrilite, with over $4billion in sales. Does Amway hide who manufactures it? No! Amway manufactures it! Next is Artistry. I believe over a million in sales. Who makes it? Amway! Next is the durables, eSpring and iCool. Just announced at over a billion in sales. Who manufactures it? Amway! And you want to talk about Amway branded Olive Oil? Seriously? A product that’s not marketed or advertised by Amway, and provided purely for convenience of IBOs, not customers? A product they probably sell at most a few tens of thousand dollars worth, globally? Olive Oil?

Are you an IBO? No? Did you ask your Amway rep about the olive oil? That’s what they’re there for! To answer questions. Heck, if you don’t want to do that, ask Amway themselves! Did you do that? Or just decide that Amway products can’t be researched?? But here’s a hint “director” – Amway is not an olive oil company. Did you know you can buy coca-cola from a machine in many car dealers, and they make money on it. Do you evaluate car dealers on the price of their coke, and info they provide about it? Really? Good grief.

But hey, I’ll give you some credit, you didn’t stop there. You mentioned Nutrilite! An actual Amway product! Well done! Vitamin D3 3000 IU plus K2. When I looked there was no equivalent on Amazon. Did you check for vitamin D with K2? Do you know why the K2 is there? Since you like researching then I’ll leave you to find out. It’s important. That’s why Nutrilite includes it.

So … I tried to find this “Nature Made” product you claim has 6000IU (twice the nutrilite product). Couldn’t find it. Could you provide a link? I thought maybe you meant this one. With 5000IU, which is 2.5 times the Nutrilite product. But you couldn’t mean that one, could you? I couldn’t even find out the ingredients, let alone the manufacturer. We know how much you hate that, so clearly you wouldn’t recommend that product, would you? Then I thought maybe you meant this product. It’s 3cents/tablet on speci, not the list price, which is what you used for Amway. It comes with zinc, calcium and magnesium. But it has only 10% of the D3 that the nutrilite product has! So can’t be that one can it? Especially since you still have no information on the manufacturer. Not to mention the fact it’s got magnesium stearate in it! You know, that substance you claim “compromises” the product. But don’t stress, in fact, magnesium stearate is based on either animal or vegetable oil and is commonly used in tablets. It’s even used in baby formula! There’s no evidence at all that it “may cause health hazards”, it’s perfectly safe. And wondering where that Nature’s Made tablet really comes from? No idea, they’re site just says “a trusted network of suppliers”. What are they hiding? You’re more than welcome to go visit the Nutrilite farms and manufacturing facilities!

Oh, and just one last thing. The price you’re quoting from Amway. They’re not the price Amway sells them for. They’re the price Amway recommends their reps sell them for – you know, the “list price” you conveniently ignore on amazon.com. IBOs can sell them for whatever price they want, and given they have profit margins anywhere up to 50% and more, they can and do. Just like people do on Amazon. And they even offer free shipping!

You’ve demonstrate classic confirmation bias here, selecting products that Amway does not manufacture nor actively market to anyone, and which is a trivial part of their business, to complain about a lack of information, then actively promoting another brand as better despite this exact weakness and simultaneously attacking Amway for having an ingredient your “favoured” brand has too! But hey, we already know that expecting people to be convinced by the facts flies in the face of … the facts

I have spent a few days matching Amway store offerings to online equivalents, especially Amazon. Amway in comparison offers very few choices and seldom has an equivalent product at less than twice the Amazon cost.

Amazon offers free shipping on most of the equivalent items for those of us who pay the modest PRIME membership premium that means two day delivery.

Amazon products can be researched and evaluated, Amway products … we have to take Amway’s word for it that their products have quality control.

Amway Extra Virgin Olive Oil is 29.95 retail before shipping or just over 46 cents an ounce. The highest price equivalent on Amazon is 33 cents an ounce, free shipping with Amazon Prime, brand Zoe is widely reviewed and awarded best choice by The New York Times. SMART MENU Olive Oil has no reviews and only the strange claim by Amway “If you like Bertolli Extra Virgin Olive Oil, try Smart Menu’s. Bertolli is the lead Walmart brand and not considered a top choice. At least the consumer can check it out and read its label. The Amway online catalog does not provide a product label. There are not assertions that it is cold pressed or organic.

I would consider myself a rather poor shopper to choice the more expensive product when there is no indication why or how the product might be worth more and concern that vital product information is being withheld.

Nutrilite brand is available on both Amway and Amazon. Amway cost is 20% higher or more depending on the product. Amazon offers dozens of equivalent and perhaps better sources of for instance Vitamin D, Nature Made’s at 3 cents a tablet as compared to more than 14 cents a tablet at Amway (the Nature Made product is arguably better, too, having zinc in addition to calcium and magnesium and twice as much Vitamin D3 per tablet).

Take one step further and READ the actual labels. Nutrilite uses ten ingredients which speed processing of the tablets, reduce the effectiveness of the actual supplement and may cause health hazards. Do I want magnesium stearate in my diet … no, that is an industrial oil to protect machinery. Other supplement manufacturers avoid compromising their products. Amway chooses the more expensive and the less clean product.

Since Amway remains founded upon it Nutrilite brand, this consumer must carefully avoid their products.

*they are talking about non-Amway (Partner Stores in the U.S./Canada) products,
AND/OR
*they do not understand concentration and cost-per-use and instead they are comparing gram to gram,
AND/OR
*they do not understand the features and benefits of an Amway product, so they are using an “inferior” product for comparison
AND/OR
*simply are repeating things they’ve heard, without checking the facts for themselves.

Are products offered by the Amway Corporation for everybody? Does everyone need/want such products? No. And Amway isn’t looking to serve the masses. That’s the job of the Wal-Marts of the world. Though Wal-Mart is an admirable business model, it is not Amway’s Business model.

Just like Apple does not follow a Wal-Mart business model—and they seem to be doing just fine—even without me as a customer.