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MYTH: It’s a pyramid if most products are bought by IBOs

Many critics like to claim that Amway and other MLMs are a “product based illegal pyramid scheme”. The claim is that they are illegal pyramid schemes because the majority of products are consumed by “members of the scheme” and not retail customers. It’s quite common for them to also claim that in the FTC vs Amway, the FTC declared Amway not an illegal pyramid scheme because of these retail customers. Continue reading

QBlog aka Eric Janssen Propaganda

Eric Janssen over at his Webraw forum “Quixtar Blog” has been obsessing recently over this video on the Quixtar Facts website. In the video, Quixtar’s Rob Davidson, Vice President of Sales and Marketing, says about web-based critics of Quixtar

“most of the people have never contacted us, many of them have never even been active in our business”

Janssen takes exception to this claiming –

The point is that Rob Davidson is saying that many of Quixtar’s critics are inexperienced whiners when the reality is that many of them have years of experience and know what they’re talking about. And to illustrate that reality I’m publishing a list of “critics” along with their experience in Quixtar (or Amway).

He then proceeds to list a small number of contributors to his Quixtar Blog forums. Janssen thinks Davidson’s claim is so “absurd” and just “propoganda” that he has now posted a video where Davidson’s speech is childishly slowed down to sound like a drunk and screenshots of the websites of three “experienced” critics are shown.

Janssen needs a dictionary. He seems to think that Rob Davidson says  “all” critics have never been active IBOs. What does he say?

many of them have never even been active in our business”

Propoganda? Or true? I just did a quick google on “Quixtar” and “Amway” and found a number of vocal web “critics” who have never been IBOs but nevertheless run websites criticising Amway/Quixtar and are regularly quoted by the anti-amway/anti-quixtar crowd –

Dean Van Druff – never an IBO
Robert Fitzpatrick – never an IBO
David Touretzky  – never an IBO
Steve Hassan – never an IBO
Rick Ross – never an IBO
Robert Todd Carroll – never an IBO
Tim Williams – never an IBO
Peter Bowditch – never an IBO
Russel Glasser – never an IBO

Janssen seems to be so arrogant as to think Davidson is only talking about his site! Though we could add to the above list of inexperienced critics –

Eric Janssen – never an active IBO (wife was an IBO for a short time)
Scott Larsen – IBO in Amway for less than a year

and some vocal “anonymous” folk from the quixtarblog forums and elsewhere –

“lawdawg” – joined for 6 months to teach his father-in-law, a sapphire, how it should be done. uhuh.
“dmm” – never an IBO
“Porkchopjim” – never an IBO
“judes” – never an IBO
“don incognito” – never an IBO
“perceptive” – never an IBO

There’s more I’m sure.

BLOG: What does QuixtarBlog look like to an independent observer?

Have you ever wondered what an independent observer thinks about the conversations that go on over at QuixtarBlog forums? Read on and find out.

In my commentary about the new site Quixtar Conversations I mentioned the possibility that Quixtar had been “Scobleized“. Scobleizer is a blog by ex-Microsoft employee and general tech geek/guru Robert Scoble. In the post I referenced, Robert mentioned that he had been meeting with Quixtar staff and advising them on how to go about “engaging” people on the internet, both IBOs and critics. Both Beth Dornan from Quixtar PR and Eric Janssen of QuixtarBlog posted comments on the blog, however what struck me was a post from a fellow called Allan Tui.

Allan mentions he is being introduced to the world of blogs by a friend who is an expert in the field. One evening they started at Robert Scoble’s blog, and taking his suggestion checked out the websites by Nestle and Quixtar and also reviewed the comments. He states –

There were some obviously emotional comments about Quixtar and a long post from a Quixtar consumer advocate named Eric Janssen.

Did I read that correctly? Eric Janssen a Quixtar consumer advocate? Yes indeed – in his comments Eric says

I started an independent consumer advocate blog about Quixtar in November, 2002.

Allan continues with some interesting comments on this claim, the QuixtarBlog forums, and the so-called Quixtar “google-bombing”. Details below the fold.

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BLOG: Eric Scheibeler & Pyramid Scheme Alert – Scammers?

I was visiting the website of Pyramid Scheme Alert, a bogus "consumer organization" that purportes to target illegal pyramids, but instead spends most of it's time targetting legitimate Multi-level Marketing companies. While browsing through the site, I noticed this -

The Amway/Quixtar Scheme is seeking to suppress the research and testimony of PSA Director, Eric Scheibeler. Please help with a contribution to the Legal Defense Fund.

And then some links for people to donate via PayPal or by mail

Which lead me to ask – what legal case are they asking for donations for?

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BLOG: QuixtarBlog’s Eric Janssen supports unethical behaviour?!?

According to this post on Eric Janssen's (QBlog) QuixtarBlog, Amway/Quixtar critic Scott Larsen emailed him and told him he'd received yet another letter from Alticor lawyers about his website. The problem this time was that he'd posted a link to a news article about Alticor leader's being sued by former Amway shareholders in a dispute over the reprivitisation of Amway Asia-Pacific back in the 9s. Linking to the article is fine, but in typical Larsen fashion, he didn't link to another news article, just 6 days later, about the case getting thrown out. Larsen wants people to read about the case, but he doesn't want people to know that it had no merit! And people still trust this guy? What shocked me even more though was
Janssen's defence of Larsen.

Now, I'm not a lawyer, but I agree with
Janssen that Alticor's legal folk probably had no leg to stand on in
terms of forcing Larsen to link to the later news article, and to his
credit he did add the link, but
Janssen goes out of his way to defend
Larsen's right to be biased and mislead people! You get that folks –
the behaviour is unethical and misleading, and Eric
Janssen says that kind of thing is fine by him. I'd note Janssen himself also hotlinks to the first news article twice, thus helping contribute to improving it's ranking in search engines, but he doesn't hot link to the article explaing the case was bogus.

Are these guys actually interested in THE TRUTH? Apparently not.

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