Comments on: Chuck’s back! In a touch of irony … http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/chucks-back-in-a-touch-of-irony/ Get the Facts about Amway Global Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:17:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ibofightback http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/chucks-back-in-a-touch-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-3221 ibofightback Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:38:12 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/?p=1484#comment-3221 hej aj - hurt my shoulder, then had my son home with a fever for a few days, then had to spend a few days catching up on real work, then had my birthday, now have my son home again since the fever was apparently the onset of chicken pox! Oh, and it coincided with getting conned into buying a playstation so I'm spending way too much time entertaining my not very sick but very spotty son on the sofa playing Prince of Persia :) The post is actually 2/3 written, so hopefully soon! Apart from which, always best to take a DEEP BREATH and a pause before being publicly critical of anyone :) hej aj – hurt my shoulder, then had my son home with a fever for a few days, then had to spend a few days catching up on real work, then had my birthday, now have my son home again since the fever was apparently the onset of chicken pox!

Oh, and it coincided with getting conned into buying a playstation so I’m spending way too much time entertaining my not very sick but very spotty son on the sofa playing Prince of Persia :)

The post is actually 2/3 written, so hopefully soon!

Apart from which, always best to take a DEEP BREATH and a pause before being publicly critical of anyone :)

]]> By: ajgannon http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/chucks-back-in-a-touch-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-3036 ajgannon Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:13:24 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/?p=1484#comment-3036 Where's that butt-kicking post you started a few weeks ago, IBOFightBack? Maybe there's too much positive to focus on instead. Where’s that butt-kicking post you started a few weeks ago, IBOFightBack?
Maybe there’s too much positive to focus on instead.

]]> By: Bridgett http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/chucks-back-in-a-touch-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-2532 Bridgett Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:18:13 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/?p=1484#comment-2532 That is really interesting that you should say that. My husband just endured some freak wrestling attack by our 5-yr old boy. Painful enough that he got it checked out the next day, the 27th. Something's up with his rotator cuff. Come to find out he's been in pain for a couple of years. So in hindsight, I'm glad our son "attacked" him. Finally got him to go to the doctor! :) That is really interesting that you should say that. My husband just endured some freak wrestling attack by our 5-yr old boy.

Painful enough that he got it checked out the next day, the 27th. Something’s up with his rotator cuff.

Come to find out he’s been in pain for a couple of years. So in hindsight, I’m glad our son “attacked” him. Finally got him to go to the doctor! :)

]]> By: ibofightback http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/chucks-back-in-a-touch-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-2531 ibofightback Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:10:36 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/?p=1484#comment-2531 Yeah, sorry, I pulled a muscle in my right shoulder having fun dragging my 2.5yr old around on a sled and throwing snowballs :) Right shoulder means the mouse arm, so I've been a little less PC/net active the last few days! Yeah, sorry, I pulled a muscle in my right shoulder having fun dragging my 2.5yr old around on a sled and throwing snowballs :)

Right shoulder means the mouse arm, so I’ve been a little less PC/net active the last few days!

]]> By: ajgannon http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/chucks-back-in-a-touch-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-2530 ajgannon Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:06:24 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/?p=1484#comment-2530 IBFB wrote, "My next post, coming later today, is going to be a bit of virulent rant against the actions of a major Amway organisation and the fact it’s endorsed by Amway Corporation." Where's the next post? It's November 30th. IBFB wrote, “My next post, coming later today, is going to be a bit of virulent rant against the actions of a major Amway organisation and the fact it’s endorsed by Amway Corporation.”

Where’s the next post? It’s November 30th.

]]> By: Chuck Lia http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/chucks-back-in-a-touch-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-2528 Chuck Lia Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:40:42 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/?p=1484#comment-2528 Just a quick point of clarification. When I started my blog we were about eight months into the TEAM debacle and I had become very disappointed with the way the corporation was dealing with aspects of the situation. I believed that both sides of the issue had hijacked the corporation. First, TEAM was sending up smokescreens to cover the realities of its less than candid or honorable business practices. Second, the company I respected in the past was becoming a company I had less respect for today. I wanted the company to return to its fundamentals and foundational principles. Over a few months I laid out the challenges I had with the current state of affairs and pointed out how I believed the company should move forward. In several cases, the company took some of the steps moving forward that you, I, and others had proposed. In my last post in August I proposed six other areas that I believed the company should address. They made changes in four of them, including the non-compete and arbitration clauses, discussed a fifth publicly on Robin's Opportunity Zone blog, and the other is not yet at a place where it can be addressed as the company hasn't yet produced much in the way of corporate logo products and materials. But all in all, I'd say the company has been very responsive to the issues that to me were most critical. But my motive in posting from the beginning was not to be a negative voice, but a constructive one. When the issues that concerned me had been addressed for the most part, I was no longer willing to waste my time rehashing the same things with the same people in the same venues. Now I believe, in the same way that I did when SOA started in April 2008, that we can play a role in further promoting the business -- this time by discussing the truly numerous positive things that are happening today in the world of Amway Global. Anyone who can't see the many, many positive things going on in Amway today simply doesn't want to see them and likely has agenda of their own -- an agenda often mean-spirited and not easily impressed by the facts. In my mind, that is unconscionable and displays a real lack of integrity across the board. I do not believe that is true of all critics, but it appears to be true of many of them. Beyond all that IBOFightback, I do think the company should hire you (immediately!) to lead the internet cause. You'd be a terrific person for the job. Just a quick point of clarification. When I started my blog we were about eight months into the TEAM debacle and I had become very disappointed with the way the corporation was dealing with aspects of the situation. I believed that both sides of the issue had hijacked the corporation. First, TEAM was sending up smokescreens to cover the realities of its less than candid or honorable business practices. Second, the company I respected in the past was becoming a company I had less respect for today.

I wanted the company to return to its fundamentals and foundational principles. Over a few months I laid out the challenges I had with the current state of affairs and pointed out how I believed the company should move forward. In several cases, the company took some of the steps moving forward that you, I, and others had proposed. In my last post in August I proposed six other areas that I believed the company should address. They made changes in four of them, including the non-compete and arbitration clauses, discussed a fifth publicly on Robin’s Opportunity Zone blog, and the other is not yet at a place where it can be addressed as the company hasn’t yet produced much in the way of corporate logo products and materials. But all in all, I’d say the company has been very responsive to the issues that to me were most critical.

But my motive in posting from the beginning was not to be a negative voice, but a constructive one. When the issues that concerned me had been addressed for the most part, I was no longer willing to waste my time rehashing the same things with the same people in the same venues.

Now I believe, in the same way that I did when SOA started in April 2008, that we can play a role in further promoting the business — this time by discussing the truly numerous positive things that are happening today in the world of Amway Global. Anyone who can’t see the many, many positive things going on in Amway today simply doesn’t want to see them and likely has agenda of their own — an agenda often mean-spirited and not easily impressed by the facts. In my mind, that is unconscionable and displays a real lack of integrity across the board. I do not believe that is true of all critics, but it appears to be true of many of them.

Beyond all that IBOFightback, I do think the company should hire you (immediately!) to lead the internet cause. You’d be a terrific person for the job.

]]> By: MaybeIBO http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/chucks-back-in-a-touch-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-2527 MaybeIBO Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:29:43 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/?p=1484#comment-2527 This is a weird request, but could IBOFightBack please e-mail me. I met with my friend who is recruiting me for Network 21 tonight & I have some questions for you about his upline's tactics. I don't want to post them, but you seem reasonable and I really need some advice Please don't post this comment, and if you have time drop me a line This is a weird request, but could IBOFightBack please e-mail me. I met with my friend who is recruiting me for Network 21 tonight & I have some questions for you about his upline’s tactics. I don’t want to post them, but you seem reasonable and I really need some advice

Please don’t post this comment, and if you have time drop me a line

]]> By: visioneer http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/chucks-back-in-a-touch-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-2525 visioneer Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:03:54 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/?p=1484#comment-2525 Thanks for the heads up Ibofightback, good to hear Chuck is building the biz and the new direction of his blog! Thanks for the heads up Ibofightback, good to hear Chuck is building the biz and the new direction of his blog!

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