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Comment on 16.6% growth for Amway India by Bridgett

Bridgett — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:29:46 +0000

Just to clarify, I meant to write,

You only get income from them, if they bring in sales.”

Of course, in both the real estate business and the Amway business, you make money for your own personal sales.

Comment on 16.6% growth for Amway India by Bridgett

Bridgett — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:27:16 +0000

102 persons to complete a cycle?

I think, shyam you may be confused.

If I sponsor 102 people and they buy and/or sell ZERO products, guess how much I make? ZERO DOLLARS.

If I sponsor 10 people, and, as a group, we moved the same volume as in your “complete a cycle” example, then guess what? The same amount of money is given to our group, and split up according to each person’s productivity.

In other words, it has nothing to do with the number of people you sponsor, and everything to do with the amount of product volume is moved in an organization.

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I don’t know if you have real estate offices in India or how they work. But here, in the States, if you own a real estate firm, and you have brokers working in your office, then you get a % of their commissions on the sale of homes. You don’t get one red cent for bringing them in to your office. You only get income if they bring in sales. And how you help and mentor and train them, and what supplies/tools you offer them with, will have a major impact on how successful they are at doing that. So the better you train, the more successful they are, and the more profitable you’ll be.

Like the Amway Business, the amount of money you make has nothing to do with the number of “bodies” you have in your office. It has to do with the amount of house sales are being generated by your group of people. And not all individuals are going to produce the same amount of volume as each other, for various reasons.

Hope that helps.

Comment on 16.6% growth for Amway India by ibofightback

ibofightback — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:23:21 +0000

Shyam, I see you’re still under the same illusion about how Amway operates as you are on your blog – you think the business is about recruiting people! It’s not, it’s about product volume. Recruiting other business partners is no different here as to any other business – you get them because you think you can build a bigger business with help. Of course, you’ll have to share profits with them, so they’ll “cost” money, but if you develop a big enough business, then you’ll all make more money. What you’re doing at the same time though is recruiting customers – again, just like any other business. You can buy burgers from McDonald’s – or you can be McDonald’s franchise owner. If everyone owned a McDonald’s franchise, then there’d be nobody to buy the burgers, the business wouldn’t work. Does that make McDonald’s a scam? Because it’s impossbile for everyone to own a McDonald’s franchise?

I suspect you’re saying something like “but it’s not the same …. you don’t make money by recruiting other McDonald’s francishees!”

Guess again Shyam – it’s is the same – because you don’t make money by recruiting other Amway members either!

It’s not about recruiting people, Shyam, it’s not what we get paid for. Until you understand that, you’ll never understand the Amway business.

Comment on 16.6% growth for Amway India by shyam sundar

shyam sundar — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:35:12 +0000

Few people would agree that it is inherently deceitful business. Because they are trained to nod whatever they are told by the upline members. The scheme itself is mathematically impossible. It is impossible for every person to find 102 persons to complete one cycle and that it is called mathematical impossibility. Knowing fully well that it would not work forever, these fraudsters continue to woo gullible to join the scheme. Later, they blame them for not working hard and not reaching the target. These gullible believe it to be true.
That is why Amway is the mother of all scams.

Comment on Amway and the Internet – A History, Part I by ibofightback

ibofightback — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:41:49 +0000

JoAnna, thanks for the kind words and great to read your posts. If the Winter conference is anything like the ones I’ve been to, then you’ll find a lot of your doubts, and fears, much relieved!

Comment on Amway and the Internet – A History, Part I by JoAnna Frances

JoAnna Frances — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:51:49 +0000

Just read the blog between Rocket and IBOFB on the other thread. Absolutely fascinating! And absolutely helped me make up my mind about the business – I’m in! I’m thinking out of the box and going for it. We are no longer in an age where you go to school – get into a job – wait for promotion in the hopes of having more money – retire – live off the measly pension – die! That’s old world thinking. Did you know that (and you probably do) if you look at Facebook and count how many people are registered on it, it would add up to the 5th largest Country in the world (and growing!)That blew me away! The future is here and its the internet. The industrial age is dead! I want to get out there into cyberspace and create opportunities, live the life I want and do it well! Thanks so much for this website. You should be commended for this.

Comment on Amway and the Internet – A History, Part I by JoAnna Frances

JoAnna Frances — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:41:36 +0000

Hi guys, my husband and I were approached by this really fabulous girl last week under the i-commerce banner. We then went to the presentation with others and were really impressed – we could see the big picture about leaving the industrial age behind and embracing information technology and the internet as the way of the future. My husband, who is a very successful businessman really got the whole conceptstraight away and is eager to start. Me on the other hand, I really understand the concept and I am excited about most of it. However, I just don’t know how I will go about selling the concept to others. I have a fear here. We are going to the Winter conference in a couple of weeks to meet other people. My husband and I really want to live a life with passion and have the lifestyle to be able to do other things, rather then working 40 hours a week until retirement. I, as an analytical person, have looked at all differnt websites, the good, the bad and the ugly. I am still erring on the side of positivity that this could work. But something is holding me back. Any advice would be so greatly appreciated.

Comment on Anatomy of Deceit – an Amway Critic’s price comparisons by Bridgett

Bridgett — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:04:25 +0000

Levi,

Those people whom you mention, particularly the owner of that blog have no interest in having a sane, rational conversation.

Their MO is that of an Internet troll.

“In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

Having learned their true intentions, I no longer waste my time, knowing that this is all a sick game to them.

Comment on Anatomy of Deceit – an Amway Critic’s price comparisons by Levi

Levi — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:14:47 +0000

ibofightback, its nice to hear sensible information after so long of hearing the nay sayers and thier wild tangents. I have delt with Gina, rlaurens, joe cool and maximum on various issues on joe’s blog and it is been a head spin. good job here on the costco issue.

Comment on Amway and the Internet – A History, Part I by Mark

Mark — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:58:02 +0000

Great site.
I have been in Amway since 1992.
I have run other conventional businesses,some i have lost my shirt.
Amway is a brilliant business i have made money from hard work no scams,brilliant products,delighted clients who have thanked me for saving then money with our products.
Great company support.
Amway UK ABO.