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		<title>Comment on Amway Global Accreditation: transformation or a sad joke? by ibofightback</title>
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		<dc:creator>ibofightback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

With respect, McEwen's talk was not "educational facts", much of it was utter BS. As one commentator has pointed out, the guy claimed trees &lt;em&gt;breath out&lt;/em&gt; carbon dioxide! He also made various political and economic claims that were just plain wrong, or in the least &lt;em&gt;opinion &lt;/em&gt;and not fact. If the excuse is "educating" people then he did an extremely poor job of it. Now, having said that I don't want to get into a debate on the science and politics of the talk, that's not the issue. The point is that &lt;em&gt;by their very nature &lt;/em&gt;political talks will be controversial, and controversy is not what's needed in the Amway business, particularly for a general meeting with new folk in attendance. 

With regards the other comments about accreditation, you are correct and I've got another post half written already to address these issues. This post I deliberately wrote in a somewhat belligerant manner because I wanted to stir the pot a little and ensure the issue was not ignored. I'm pleased to hear it hasn't been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>With respect, McEwen&#8217;s talk was not &#8220;educational facts&#8221;, much of it was utter BS. As one commentator has pointed out, the guy claimed trees <em>breath out</em> carbon dioxide! He also made various political and economic claims that were just plain wrong, or in the least <em>opinion </em>and not fact. If the excuse is &#8220;educating&#8221; people then he did an extremely poor job of it. Now, having said that I don&#8217;t want to get into a debate on the science and politics of the talk, that&#8217;s not the issue. The point is that <em>by their very nature </em>political talks will be controversial, and controversy is not what&#8217;s needed in the Amway business, particularly for a general meeting with new folk in attendance. </p>
<p>With regards the other comments about accreditation, you are correct and I&#8217;ve got another post half written already to address these issues. This post I deliberately wrote in a somewhat belligerant manner because I wanted to stir the pot a little and ensure the issue was not ignored. I&#8217;m pleased to hear it hasn&#8217;t been.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amway Global Accreditation: transformation or a sad joke? by Passed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Passed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with IBOFIGHTBACK, about importance of the functions and seminars. They are good source of motivation and also provide a big picture. Although they provide more benefits (in terms of knowledge) to new IBOs then to experienced IBOs.

There are 6 points which, I think, can help Amway and System to make things better for everyone:

1. Contents or the topics (main points) covered in seminars or meetings needs to be approved by the corporation

2. Limit the number of functions and meetings can be held in each year. 

3. Make sure that each function and meeting has information about retailing and building business both ways, by retail and by networking. Right now system meeting are always about networking as "more people = more tool money"

4. Tool sold has to be approved by amway and with newer technology CDs should have more nformation. May be 1 CD a month, which has material equals to 4-5 regular CDs. 

5. Reasonable pricing of the functions and seminars. Better will be if we can have more seminars than major functions. 5-6 hour seminar every 2 months and 2 day function 2 times a year.

6. Disclosure of income generated and distributed by system to various pin levels, so that people know who is making money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with IBOFIGHTBACK, about importance of the functions and seminars. They are good source of motivation and also provide a big picture. Although they provide more benefits (in terms of knowledge) to new IBOs then to experienced IBOs.</p>
<p>There are 6 points which, I think, can help Amway and System to make things better for everyone:</p>
<p>1. Contents or the topics (main points) covered in seminars or meetings needs to be approved by the corporation</p>
<p>2. Limit the number of functions and meetings can be held in each year. </p>
<p>3. Make sure that each function and meeting has information about retailing and building business both ways, by retail and by networking. Right now system meeting are always about networking as &#8220;more people = more tool money&#8221;</p>
<p>4. Tool sold has to be approved by amway and with newer technology CDs should have more nformation. May be 1 CD a month, which has material equals to 4-5 regular CDs. </p>
<p>5. Reasonable pricing of the functions and seminars. Better will be if we can have more seminars than major functions. 5-6 hour seminar every 2 months and 2 day function 2 times a year.</p>
<p>6. Disclosure of income generated and distributed by system to various pin levels, so that people know who is making money.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amway Global Accreditation: transformation or a sad joke? by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

First I respect what you have been doing for a while supporting the Amway Global business. As an American and business owner living in the USA I am excited about the Changes made to Amway Global business. I write to say please think about what you’re criticizing before you use your stage in a negative manner without knowing what the corporation is and has already done about the matter. It really undercuts so many that have worked so tirelessly to get Accreditation into action to seriously clean up this great opportunity. The Accreditation process was built with so much work and effort by so many to protect and give all IBO’s the same and equal playing field for the future. This was put in place mainly to destroy any corruption in educational tool areas which 95% of all the negativity was talked about. The Accreditation of the LOA’s has proudly been a huge success in so many areas to help propel the future. The Accreditation process has been long and hard and with our organization, now there virtually is way to have funny money or dollars that are not accounted for at all levels. All is tracked online and traceable to every account. The rules on talks and what can be spoke from an Amway stage at major events has been massively transformed by the Accreditation process for the better which was not easy. The board has been notified of the talk and is taking the proper actions for the future which will be dealt with by the board which as you know got rid of many other LOA’s. Please before you use your platform to discredit the largest fix to the business in 50 years please think about what you’re degree of discrediting with out knowing what they are doing because of it. It was real and majorly effective for the future of our great business and I am excited about what it is going to do for all of us in the future here is the USA and around the world. Please keep in mind the Accreditation and the timing of the election in the U.S since this election was different animal than ever before. Dexter Truly cares about this great country and if other negative media was taking the gloves off at all tasteless cases at least Dexter used class with having and educated States Man explain educational facts which major new media turns the blind eye too. As for Bob’s talk, Yes Dexter should have left that good talk for an influential Yeager Leadership of sorts for people who already work very hard and have a large stake in an ownership of any business but off the Corporate Amway stage. I hope you see where I am coming from since this is the least of the problems concerning the need for the Accreditation process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>First I respect what you have been doing for a while supporting the Amway Global business. As an American and business owner living in the USA I am excited about the Changes made to Amway Global business. I write to say please think about what you’re criticizing before you use your stage in a negative manner without knowing what the corporation is and has already done about the matter. It really undercuts so many that have worked so tirelessly to get Accreditation into action to seriously clean up this great opportunity. The Accreditation process was built with so much work and effort by so many to protect and give all IBO’s the same and equal playing field for the future. This was put in place mainly to destroy any corruption in educational tool areas which 95% of all the negativity was talked about. The Accreditation of the LOA’s has proudly been a huge success in so many areas to help propel the future. The Accreditation process has been long and hard and with our organization, now there virtually is way to have funny money or dollars that are not accounted for at all levels. All is tracked online and traceable to every account. The rules on talks and what can be spoke from an Amway stage at major events has been massively transformed by the Accreditation process for the better which was not easy. The board has been notified of the talk and is taking the proper actions for the future which will be dealt with by the board which as you know got rid of many other LOA’s. Please before you use your platform to discredit the largest fix to the business in 50 years please think about what you’re degree of discrediting with out knowing what they are doing because of it. It was real and majorly effective for the future of our great business and I am excited about what it is going to do for all of us in the future here is the USA and around the world. Please keep in mind the Accreditation and the timing of the election in the U.S since this election was different animal than ever before. Dexter Truly cares about this great country and if other negative media was taking the gloves off at all tasteless cases at least Dexter used class with having and educated States Man explain educational facts which major new media turns the blind eye too. As for Bob’s talk, Yes Dexter should have left that good talk for an influential Yeager Leadership of sorts for people who already work very hard and have a large stake in an ownership of any business but off the Corporate Amway stage. I hope you see where I am coming from since this is the least of the problems concerning the need for the Accreditation process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quixtar Diamonds Jerry &#038; Polly Harteis Resign? by ibofightback</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/quixtar-diamonds-jerry-polly-harteis-resign/comment-page-1/#comment-3316</link>
		<dc:creator>ibofightback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One resigns because you think you can get a better deal elsewhere. That doesn't necessarily mean the deal you had was a bad one, just that you think you have a better alternative. Amway didn' terminate them or request they resign, so I'm not exactly sure why you're attacking Amway over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One resigns because you think you can get a better deal elsewhere. That doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean the deal you had was a bad one, just that you think you have a better alternative. Amway didn&#8217; terminate them or request they resign, so I&#8217;m not exactly sure why you&#8217;re attacking Amway over it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Quixtar Diamonds Jerry &#038; Polly Harteis Resign? by Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 06:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry and Polly are true and honest people.  Amway however, may not be.  How does someone invest 30 yrs in a business, become a millionaire, and then resign?  Makes you wonder about Amway!  These people, and I've spent hours and hours with them, are genuine, honest folks.  They deserve better than this!  Best wishes to you Jerry, Polly, Fred, Linda, and all others dupped by the Amway corp.  The un-ending tv ads by this company only prove their desperation to get people "IN".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry and Polly are true and honest people.  Amway however, may not be.  How does someone invest 30 yrs in a business, become a millionaire, and then resign?  Makes you wonder about Amway!  These people, and I&#8217;ve spent hours and hours with them, are genuine, honest folks.  They deserve better than this!  Best wishes to you Jerry, Polly, Fred, Linda, and all others dupped by the Amway corp.  The un-ending tv ads by this company only prove their desperation to get people &#8220;IN&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amway Global Accreditation: transformation or a sad joke? by ibofightback</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/amway-global-accreditation-transformation-or-a-sad-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-3309</link>
		<dc:creator>ibofightback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZZZ, hypothetically, if an Amway leader can make more selling his services to Amway IBOs as a BSM supplier, and there's no way Amway can stop an independent BSM supplier selling services to IBOs (we can all buy from Tony Robbins) - wouldn't a "ban" on IBOs being associated with BSM suppliers (ie owners or otherwise profiting) logically mean that top Amway leaders would be better off quitting Amway once they got to a certain level?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZZZ, hypothetically, if an Amway leader can make more selling his services to Amway IBOs as a BSM supplier, and there&#8217;s no way Amway can stop an independent BSM supplier selling services to IBOs (we can all buy from Tony Robbins) - wouldn&#8217;t a &#8220;ban&#8221; on IBOs being associated with BSM suppliers (ie owners or otherwise profiting) logically mean that top Amway leaders would be better off quitting Amway once they got to a certain level?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amway Global Accreditation: transformation or a sad joke? by zigzagzoom</title>
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		<dc:creator>zigzagzoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rykel - Good to c some comments..
First of all it is not just some company wide training program..
I wish the global system is operated as sister concern of Amway and is managed by Amway &#38; IBOAI or Amway &#38; the system owners together..The operations of the system don't change much from what we have now &#38; it is still managed by your local leaders..
But I am suggesting that there should be no income made by the system leaders &#38; we all sing the same song in the market place by not splitting anymore under different systems...
This can only happen if Amway takes over and along with system leaders streamlines the systems &#38; the business..
Where does this take out competition or innovation or recognition?
An IBO always wants to get recognized for his/her performance &#38; always wants to see his group succeed whether he/she is in own system or global Amway system..
Also, if any the existing system collapses like TEAM or IBS we all are blamed &#38; all over businesses are affected(example:UK)

As far as checking my upline I did share this &#38; got a message that this can't happen something similar to what you guys are saying..
But Amway is already planning a common system for UK market...

A system leader who is having a successful Amway business and very healthy system income will never give up his system to merge with a global system where he can't make money &#38; why should he if Amway allowed uncontrollable system income in the first place(I probably think you belong to this category, my apologies if not)

We should all worry about the "Amway brand" not our individual system brand, because we join the business to make money from Amway and not from a system that helps to build Amway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rykel - Good to c some comments..<br />
First of all it is not just some company wide training program..<br />
I wish the global system is operated as sister concern of Amway and is managed by Amway &amp; IBOAI or Amway &amp; the system owners together..The operations of the system don&#8217;t change much from what we have now &amp; it is still managed by your local leaders..<br />
But I am suggesting that there should be no income made by the system leaders &amp; we all sing the same song in the market place by not splitting anymore under different systems&#8230;<br />
This can only happen if Amway takes over and along with system leaders streamlines the systems &amp; the business..<br />
Where does this take out competition or innovation or recognition?<br />
An IBO always wants to get recognized for his/her performance &amp; always wants to see his group succeed whether he/she is in own system or global Amway system..<br />
Also, if any the existing system collapses like TEAM or IBS we all are blamed &amp; all over businesses are affected(example:UK)</p>
<p>As far as checking my upline I did share this &amp; got a message that this can&#8217;t happen something similar to what you guys are saying..<br />
But Amway is already planning a common system for UK market&#8230;</p>
<p>A system leader who is having a successful Amway business and very healthy system income will never give up his system to merge with a global system where he can&#8217;t make money &amp; why should he if Amway allowed uncontrollable system income in the first place(I probably think you belong to this category, my apologies if not)</p>
<p>We should all worry about the &#8220;Amway brand&#8221; not our individual system brand, because we join the business to make money from Amway and not from a system that helps to build Amway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amway Global Accreditation: transformation or a sad joke? by Rykel from Singapore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rykel from Singapore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

I was just reading thru' this thread as I am a 100% System guy, &#38; concerned whenever suggestions such as, "let's merge the Systems and let Amway control it all" arise. (zzz's idea)

To zzz I would like to ask, and do sincerely hope to hear a reply: If there are NO Systems in Amway, just a company-wide training programme (of which there are a dime a dozen in MLM land, at least in Singapore! would you like me to name them?), then where is the competition and recognition?

Is it not obvious that competition brings out the best of men, and that recognition encourages innovation? eg. Would Jim &#38; Nancy Dornan feel better if they are "top IBOs" under the brandless, "Amway" training programme than if they are "top IBOs - founders of the great N21 System"? (ie. "you are just one of the many" vs. "you can't do it without mine system")

zzz I believe you check upline on your thoughts and not take counsel from Crador nor any of the other Chinese crosslining groups (nor their CDs nor stage!) that seem to have affected your thinking with the "benefits" of crosslining aka "we are one big happy Amway family", hence your intense efforts to "help" ALL other IBOs in Amway. (IF you have been influenced by them, because it sounds like you are from an Asian country. If not, pardon my misconception.)

Finally, just one thought - how can Amway staff, who are NOT out there showing the Plans, know anything at all about the field to "oversee"/"control" IBOs better than the System leaders who ARE out showing the Plan? (or at least have done so before - least anyone should accuse the leaders of never showing the Plan anymore, use common sense please - would, for example, Jim Dornan or Bill Britt, say no to a curious prospect who asks him about his wealth and lifestyle?)

I really do not care too much about other issues highlighted here as they are all suggested for the betterment of Amway, but asking Amway to "take over" the Systems, well, that really irks me. I trust that my post will shed some light on how Amway might collapse the moment they try to implement a brandless, "Amway" training programme. (I will not even call it a System, since then there will be no individual IBO ownership already.)   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I was just reading thru&#8217; this thread as I am a 100% System guy, &amp; concerned whenever suggestions such as, &#8220;let&#8217;s merge the Systems and let Amway control it all&#8221; arise. (zzz&#8217;s idea)</p>
<p>To zzz I would like to ask, and do sincerely hope to hear a reply: If there are NO Systems in Amway, just a company-wide training programme (of which there are a dime a dozen in MLM land, at least in Singapore! would you like me to name them?), then where is the competition and recognition?</p>
<p>Is it not obvious that competition brings out the best of men, and that recognition encourages innovation? eg. Would Jim &amp; Nancy Dornan feel better if they are &#8220;top IBOs&#8221; under the brandless, &#8220;Amway&#8221; training programme than if they are &#8220;top IBOs - founders of the great N21 System&#8221;? (ie. &#8220;you are just one of the many&#8221; vs. &#8220;you can&#8217;t do it without mine system&#8221;)</p>
<p>zzz I believe you check upline on your thoughts and not take counsel from Crador nor any of the other Chinese crosslining groups (nor their CDs nor stage!) that seem to have affected your thinking with the &#8220;benefits&#8221; of crosslining aka &#8220;we are one big happy Amway family&#8221;, hence your intense efforts to &#8220;help&#8221; ALL other IBOs in Amway. (IF you have been influenced by them, because it sounds like you are from an Asian country. If not, pardon my misconception.)</p>
<p>Finally, just one thought - how can Amway staff, who are NOT out there showing the Plans, know anything at all about the field to &#8220;oversee&#8221;/&#8221;control&#8221; IBOs better than the System leaders who ARE out showing the Plan? (or at least have done so before - least anyone should accuse the leaders of never showing the Plan anymore, use common sense please - would, for example, Jim Dornan or Bill Britt, say no to a curious prospect who asks him about his wealth and lifestyle?)</p>
<p>I really do not care too much about other issues highlighted here as they are all suggested for the betterment of Amway, but asking Amway to &#8220;take over&#8221; the Systems, well, that really irks me. I trust that my post will shed some light on how Amway might collapse the moment they try to implement a brandless, &#8220;Amway&#8221; training programme. (I will not even call it a System, since then there will be no individual IBO ownership already.)   <img src='http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Amway Global Accreditation: transformation or a sad joke? by Bridgett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prospering IBO,

Would it be accurate to say that you feel it was appropriate and within the Amway rules for this independant BSM company, created to support IBOs in building their Amway businesses, to engage Mr. McEwen to give his talk at its business conference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prospering IBO,</p>
<p>Would it be accurate to say that you feel it was appropriate and within the Amway rules for this independant BSM company, created to support IBOs in building their Amway businesses, to engage Mr. McEwen to give his talk at its business conference?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amway Global Accreditation: transformation or a sad joke? by Prospering IBO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prospering IBO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IBOFB,

You're doing a fine job. Keep it up..

I cannot speak for GOD but thank-you for the complement and chuckle:)

Uncomfortable can be good and bad, it is all in your personal perspective. Offensive speech and behavior should be avoided always. 

Happy New Year! Build your business big!

Prospering IBO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IBOFB,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re doing a fine job. Keep it up..</p>
<p>I cannot speak for GOD but thank-you for the complement and chuckle:)</p>
<p>Uncomfortable can be good and bad, it is all in your personal perspective. Offensive speech and behavior should be avoided always. </p>
<p>Happy New Year! Build your business big!</p>
<p>Prospering IBO</p>
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