Fred Harteis Resigns?

In a statement dated January 3, 28, now posted on his blog, Double Diamond Fred Harteis had the following to say –

Statement From Fred Harteis: 1/3/28

As an IBO I have entered into many discussions concerning issues I have had with Quixtar i.e.: product pricing, the IBO compensation plan, negative on the web. I have been open about my opinions. When the DTI situation became public, I became very concerned about our future, in the USA based on the DTI complaint. I discussed these issues with several people including my attorneys, my leaders, Orrin Woodward and Chris Brady. However I never talked to D.J. Poyfair or anyone from his firm.

In July of 27 I along with many others were very concerned about our future in business with Quixtar as was consistent in August of 27.

Although I agree with the issues I would have hoped Orrin and Chris and the others were not terminated on August 9th of 27 and the lawsuit would have not been served.

I do not have any question of the character of Orrin Woodward or Chris Brady, or doubt their motive to help people. I see them as leaders with a vision and passion to do great things for America and people on their Team.

I have resigned from Quixtar and I am working with Team Leadership. I would like to see Quixtar and Team resolve their differences soon, so everyone can get on with their lives and focus on the future.

Sincerely,
Fred Harteis

While this may have come as a surprise to some I’ve been expecting this announcement for a while. Much of his downline, including close family members, had already aligned with TEAM. Others, such as in the IBS organization in the United Kingdom, had been forced out of Amway.

It’s interesting that Fred Harteis mentions "the negative on the internet" as one of the issues of concern he had discussed with Quixtar. For the past 6 years perhaps the worst of the "negative on the internet" has been the book Merchants of Deception and the ongoing campaign to discredit Amway and Quixtar by it’s author, former Emerald Eric Scheibler. While I find many of Scheibler’s claims disingenous, and he recently admitted to being misleading in his dealings with newspapers, there was also little doubt in my mind that many of Scheibler’s issues had the root in legitimately negative experiences with his upline. As TEAM founder Orrin Woodward once said –

"It’s not the negative lies online that are killing us, but the negative truths.”

Ironically, Scheibler’s upline was none other than Fred Harteis.

(hat tip to UKIBO in the forums for picking up on this announcement)

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  1. Took me about $6,000 before I woke up. Should have listen to the wife. She saw through it from the begining. I have to say I did meet some very nice people but, it was a high price to pay in time mostly and money. Wonder where these guys are at today?

  2. As an IBO way down under Fred Harteis for years, I can tell you unequivocally that his presence in my life has far more positive than negative. He is no longer a part of the business I am in, but I learned SO MUCH from him and folks in his organisation. Circumstances have “damaged” people, not Fred himself. Decisions he made have affected us, but I can tell you, for me, I am part of the same wonderful people organisation
    he worked so hard to create. He does have a lasting positive legacy. It is a shame the company he put so much into has changed their core values. I am unhappy that life worked out the way it did in this instance, but what we have now is just as, if not, better than before. It certainly pays a great deal more money much faster, something I never saw with Q/Amway.

    1. I was also way down in the Harteis line many years ago. At the time I had tremendous respect for him but I lost it very quickly when I learned the truth. The truth is that they make very little money from the movement of products, the prices are much too high, the compensation plan stinks and the vast bulk of the money is made from the sale of tapes (CDs now presumably) and functions. Maybe Harteis et al didn’t know all this when they started but no doubt by the time they became directs they certainly did. Yet they continued to take advantage of brainwashed people to overpay for products and dream for unrealistic success. They used to say you can’t believe things from the internet and now they use it as reason to quit the business. What hypocrites. They have ruined countless lives. I did not give up on the industry and yes there is a real way to do it right without lying to people and brainwashing them. Harteis et al didn’t care about their people at all, only about the almighty dollar. A pox on all of them.

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Fred Harteis Resigns?

In a statement dated January 3, 28, now posted on his blog, Double Diamond Fred Harteis had the following to say –

Statement From Fred Harteis: 1/3/28

As an IBO I have entered into many discussions concerning issues I have had with Quixtar i.e.: product pricing, the IBO compensation plan, negative on the web. I have been open about my opinions. When the DTI situation became public, I became very concerned about our future, in the USA based on the DTI complaint. I discussed these issues with several people including my attorneys, my leaders, Orrin Woodward and Chris Brady. However I never talked to D.J. Poyfair or anyone from his firm.

In July of 27 I along with many others were very concerned about our future in business with Quixtar as was consistent in August of 27.

Although I agree with the issues I would have hoped Orrin and Chris and the others were not terminated on August 9th of 27 and the lawsuit would have not been served.

I do not have any question of the character of Orrin Woodward or Chris Brady, or doubt their motive to help people. I see them as leaders with a vision and passion to do great things for America and people on their Team.

I have resigned from Quixtar and I am working with Team Leadership. I would like to see Quixtar and Team resolve their differences soon, so everyone can get on with their lives and focus on the future.

Sincerely,
Fred Harteis

While this may have come as a surprise to some I’ve been expecting this announcement for a while. Much of his downline, including close family members, had already aligned with TEAM. Others, such as in the IBS organization in the United Kingdom, had been forced out of Amway.

It’s interesting that Fred Harteis mentions "the negative on the internet" as one of the issues of concern he had discussed with Quixtar. For the past 6 years perhaps the worst of the "negative on the internet" has been the book Merchants of Deception and the ongoing campaign to discredit Amway and Quixtar by it’s author, former Emerald Eric Scheibler. While I find many of Scheibler’s claims disingenous, and he recently admitted to being misleading in his dealings with newspapers, there was also little doubt in my mind that many of Scheibler’s issues had the root in legitimately negative experiences with his upline. As TEAM founder Orrin Woodward once said "It’s not the negative lies online that are killing us, but the negative truths.” Ironically, Scheibler’s upline was none other than Fred Harteis.

(hat tip to UKIBO in the forums for picking up on this announcement)

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