Amway Australia has no “retail stores” and no plans for them, and no business at all goes through the MoBE busses in the US. The China system is not “retail stores” as you may know them either.

I hope Amway Global survives with the choice, they seem to so far, but they knew and didn’t care what the damage and fallout would be. It is unfortunate that they have just tried to pass the blame on anyone else they could, and have cost all sides millions of dollars and have caused havoc to hundreds of thousands of people. Have others made mistakes since, yes, but Amway knew they would have no control on that.

Jay V. if he were alive and Rich D. should NOT be proud of the way their sons have been so brutal. It is possible that Amway will be better off, but at what cost?

In my opinion, the overall movement is to go to the China system of retail stores. Look at Australia, and the new Moble system in the US, and the fact that much of Amway’s business now goes through that system.

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As far as “fastest-growing” being a meaningless and misleading phrase, a few things to ponder:

1) Unless you have the raw numbers, “fast-growing” is all sizzle and no substance.

From what number to what number are we looking at? In other words, if Company “A” goes from doing $5 in sales to $50 in sales, they just increased by $45 or 900%. Wow! 900% growth, THAT’S AMAZING!!!

If Company “B” that goes from doing a million dollars to two million dollars, they increased by a million dollars, or $999,955 more than Compnay “A”. But they “only” had a 100% increase in sales–”only” 1/9 of what Company “A” had.
Unless you know what the raw numbers are, “fastest growing” is a lame “stat”.

2) What exactly are we using as a measurement of “fastest growing”? Number of people sponsored, amount of PV moved, number of higher pins achieved?

Again, without the raw numbers, this “fastest-growing” phrase sounds good, but is meaningless.

3) What does “fastest-growing” mean long term? Let’s say that many people were sponsored. Great, but are any of them making any money? What is the retention rate? What do the numbers look like the following year, and the year after that?

Are these people moving Amway product, or are they moving/consuming books, functions, and CDs?

I believe in “systems” as a support for the business that they were originally designed to support.

But if the focus is “plugging someone in” and having a ton of people in an organization, but do not have product flow and do not have profitability for the brand new person being a priority, then it doesn’t matter if you sponsor a gazillion people. I am unimpressed with one’s sponsoring rate.

Bridgett – Maybe you do not know about this, but there is a Taiwanese group in Nu Skin which calls themselves the “642 WWDB” system and they project themselves as a continuation of the Amway WWDB.. they would mention WWDB, BWW, Dexter Yager etc. during their meetings, when discussing their “history”, even to the extent of suggesting that they can join their “compatriots” in Amway during the FEDs.. wears the same red tie, uses the same Eagle logo etc.

LOL, I always find it comical that such a group exists, and the best part? They have spun off USANA 642, Morinda 642, Herbalife 642 etc. and they are primarily Chinese-dominated.

But you know what? These 642s are also usually the groups that do the best in all these other MLMs.

So there, WWDB has even achieved results outside of Amway. In a way lah. Amazing.

Jeffrey – if the rollon is good, why not just use and promote the rollon?

Bridgett – I am not biased towards a fellow N21-er and I think WWDB is great! After all, Mr Ron Puryear gave birth to Leonard and Esther Kim, Founders Crown Ambassadors Korea who braved through the most difficult times of Amway in that country… and are not Peter and Eva Muller Meerkatz of Germany in World Wide Group too?

So, no, I am most most honoured to hear WWDB-er point of view. Perhaps you can help me by providing some evidence that the Team Approach groups are NOT growing faster than the non-Team Approach fellows?

Thanks!!