It seems to me many people find fault in something they don’t understand. It is like that for all things in life. Let’s recap….

Amway Global is the supplier of product, takes care of the legal and provides the compensation. And they are extremely good at what they do and provide. If I have ever not liked something, it was not the right product, etc. it is taken care of. I use products from my business because it is my business. I wouldn’t have someone else build my computer or put it together if I own the shop. And people can’t figure out why companies are shutting down when they drive a Honda and work for Ford. Come one people.

The you have the “System” affliation, which is in my case Network 21 (and we are accrediated). The system is so key. I can open up a computer store because I have a computer, however if I haven’t had the training, experience, sweat equity, could you image that business succeeding? The system provides the training to help you get what you want out the business (whether that is product, fellowship, $100 a month or $250,000 a year).

The problem lies not in the system or the Amway corporation, but in people unwillingness to change the way they thinking. That is utter suicide in owning a traditional business, so why wouldn’t it apply to this business. And in fact, the “tools” I have invested in over the years, have improved my traditional business, my relationships with my family and friends. What is that worth? And who in their right mind thinks those things should be free or someone shouldn’t make a profit on them? Who invested the capital to have a product to sell, who took the risk?

People continue to try and compare apples to oranges with this business. You can only “compare” the numbers in my mind with other MLM businesses (and there are thousands of them out there). And as far as I can tell from the people I know in Mary Kay, Sipada, and so on… there is a limited product line and they have to continue to have parties (which is ok, if that is your thing). I use my own products, I help other save time, or money, I sell a product here or there. But I get out of this business exactly what I put in both physically and mentally – if my thinking isn’t right, I can show the plan all day long with no results. The same applies to my traditional business. If my thinking is not right, it is going to be a very unproductive day.

As far as claims or percentage or statistics, here is the reality. They can be used anyway someone wants them to be. No one is forced to do anything in this business, it is my business, not my uplines, no my downlines – it is all volunteer. And if most people truly understood how this business worked, they would know that if I am making money, dam right my upline should be making money for putting time into MY business (which I still haven’t received one bill for from them). If I am not making any money, my upline isn’t making any money from the volume or lack of volume flowing through my organization.

The business is the fairest business I know… you can be white, black, old, young, educated, high school drop out, wealthy, barely getting by. It is an even playing field for all. We are start fresh. And quite frankly, if you are struggling with money, well, go sell a product. We have 1000s of them to choose from. Cancel your cable. Move into a smaller house. Drive an older car. You see, we all have options, it is whether we are willing to choose those options or complain about our situation. What do you do if you need money in your traditional work life, you work another hour for more pay. Seems like a fairly simple concept to me.

I write this lengthy post simply to express to that new IBO or someone considering this business, that this can be a great business and there are great people in this business. And if you had a bad experience, that is a shame. Don’t let anyone tell you can’t or shouldn’t do anything for your family. And if you do and this wasn’t the right business for you, what the heck is the big deal. The capital is so small as compared to the options in the “real world.” We invested over $100,000 in our traditional business and didn’t take a cent out of it for 3 years. A little perspective, huh?

Make it a great day!

You are ignorant for sure. In your post where you number your ideas, are simply repeats from others. Many which were discussed, with you present in the conversation.

You need to bring some original thought and comprehension.

I have given you my position and have given you information about myself. You have yet to answer a few basic questions I asked you. As I said earlier, I thought you were sincere, but I was probably wrong.

I didn’t ask you to believe me. I asked why I should believe you over these other folk.

Previously when others made similar claims, on that occasion that WWDB taught to “pay cash”, some WWDB “critics” claimed one thing, a WWDB supporter claimed something contrary.

I asked both for some evidence. The supporter supplied me with an MP3 supporting their position. The critics refused to supply any evidence.

Clearly in that situation I have far more reason to believe the WWDB supporter than the critic.

So I ask you, again, with regard your claims. Why should I (or anyone else for that matter) believe you and not them?

1. There are no overhead expenses (a quote from Ron Puryear).
Ron’s been teaching to legitimize your business to pay for CORE (expenses) before I was born. Obviously taken out of context.

2. You don’t have to sell anything (just buy from yourselves
and teach others to do the same).
Personal consumption is a valid part of this business model. But so is retailing. WWDB has taught about “Making your First Circle work” for years.

3. You can be diamond in 2-5 years if you just do CORE because
it is a “proven system of success”.
Harimoto, Yuen, Danzik, Tsuruda, and many more did just that. If you DO 100% CORE every month for 2 years you’ll be diamond. Most IBOs think they’re CORE, but aren’t.

5. By inferrence (our mansions, boats and hummers are from income
from Amway/Quixtar. (It comes from tools!)
Tool profit is part of this business. And in WWDB is available to ANYONE willing to build their business and qualify for it.

8. This business is exploding. (Heard that the entire
existence of Quixtar). Quixtar now admits “the name
never caught on”.
This industry went through a slump just like MANY industries did. But over the past decade, many people have gone Platinum and above.

10. This business will likely be a $100 billion business within
5 years. (Both Puryear and Duncan).
See above. Big difference between being optimistic and being deceptive.

11. Then there are the truths that are not told. (Over 95% of
IBOs will drop out with in 5 years.)
The current renewal rate is about 35% Certainly room for improvement. This is one of the top focuses for the transformamtion

12. Another truth that is not told. (Here is how much money we
make from selling you books, CDs, functions, Kate, website,
blah, blah, blah.
Any downline IBO that asks me about tool profit, I show them a basic breakdown of the profit centers, speaking fees, etc. All Platinums and above get equal opportunity.

You are correct that it was ignorant on your part to “blindly beleive” anybody. I chose to believe, but verify, what WWDB was teaching and than actually apply it. I started my business right when Quixtar launched and just finished my 5th year as a Q12 Platinum. I have made more money on a part-time basis with my business than I do at my full-time job.

I can’t help but wonder why you keep side-stepping the question about your involvement with this business and WWDB. If you’re so convinced of your position, why not give some feedback to add to your credibilty.

When did you get registered?
How long were you “active”?
How many people did you sponsor?

Duh.

Now everyone together, “D-E-F-L-E-C-T-I-O-N”

And I’m an unnamed IBO?

You’re so silly.

IBOfightback,
Why would I believe you and your conversations with unnamed IBOs when I have first hand experience?