19 thoughts on “The Amway Phenomenon”

  1. In the meantime, I’ll be doing more research on Amway and correcting some of the inaccuracies in my blog so that critics can’t jump on us πŸ™‚ for lying. Although even if they jump on us and stick there, we have the power and the ability to carry them without being dragged down. I think this business is that great. I am certainly becoming a much better person for it.

  2. Hi guys,
    Being from India has, at the moment, a distinct advantage, in that very little of the potential market has even been approached, and given that like any other business, it’ll take at least 2-6 years to start getting any kind of results (depending on one’s speed etc), I am content to just build the network right now. I use the products, and I like them. And even though I started looking at Amway as a serious ‘part-time’ business only a little over a week ago, I don’t think that it’ll require the kind of work that Jeffrey you say it’ll need, irrespective of the kind of people-skills one possesses to begin with. I have seen people at business meetings who have progressed by entire pins almost every two months. Since everyone I know and everyone I have heard speak has started out completely negative or disbelieving about the business, I am not too worried, because the initial time they spent overcoming their negativity was what mostly caused them to not get success sooner.
    I think it is more dependent on how big your dreams are and how motivated you are in wanting to see them fulfilled, and how open-minded you are than anything else, right, Bridgett?
    Cheers πŸ™‚
    JD

  3. Sure he wasn’t visting his mistress Jeffrey? πŸ™‚

    Seriously though, you have no idea what’s going on in the middle. Heck, back in Oz we used to go to a cafe after our open plans and spend a few hours there. We hardly talked business, we just hung out. Sounds like you would have included that as “work time”. I certainly didn’t.

  4. Agreed, not easy.

    Just the picture you describe is something I am completely not interested in doing, and am grateful that there is more than one way to build the Amway Business. πŸ™‚

  5. I just saw what I saw. He loaded up his car with tools every day, would leave around 3 in the afternoon and get home around 3 in the morning. Going Diamond is not easy, no matter what anyone, including Diamonds, says. Worth it, but not easy.

  6. Jeffrey,

    Just to balance out the picture, I don’t know anyone who is a Diamond right now who ever worked more than 30 hours a week in their business to build their Diamondship.

    And, they didn’t do it for 14 years.

    I do know of an EDC, who did work 30 hours a week for 5 years just to go Platinum. However, he makes it very clear it’s because he had horrid, horrid, horrid people skills, and it took him that long to change.

    I believe there is a stat, for the U.S., which says that the “typical” Diamond took 10 years FROM WHEN THEY SIGNED THEIR REGISTRATION.

    I think that many people, including myself, futz around with this biz for a while, before being consistent. Becoming an IBO, and doing the work to build your business, doesn’t necessarily happen at the same time.

    Still, even those whom I know personally who built their Diamondship in 10 years or less, seem to follow a pattern where they got to Ruby, and then from Ruby, with about 30 hours a week, to Diamond in two years.

  7. While we’re correcting minor details, the official answer from the Corp is that Amway is in more than 80 countries and territories and we have more than 50 affiliate offices

  8. Yep, IBOFB clarified the things I saw, too. I wasn’t mad about anything, but I am a stickler for details.

    The main thing that I disklike, though, especially about the systems, is that they make building the business look way too easy. While it is not hard, manual labor, it certainly is not easy. Many of the Diamonds also have other businesses, plus system money, so it makes it appear that they make more from the business than they actually do, and some are not very forthcoming about it, especially to their downline. While their finances and the logistics of their business are certainly none of my business, I think many of them make it look like all of their income comes directly from their Amway business, so their downline will be more apt to build it so they can achieve “the Diamond lifestyle.” I watched someone who lives just a few blocks away from me go Diamond, and he literally worked 12 to 14 hours a day, 6 to 7 days a week for 14 years to go Diamond. I just wonder how many people in his group know that. That is one of the reasons that very few people ever go Diamond. Most people are simply not willing to make that kind of commitment.

    In any case, I still say that this is the best business opportunity out there and it can provide an incredible lifestyle, but the key word in that sentence is “business” and building any kind of business to any significant level at all is hard work that takes a lot of time and total commitment.

  9. Well, as I see it, it is “minor”, because even though the facts may not be a 100% accurate, they still paint a pretty realistic picture of what Amway really is, while my main purpose in writing the article remains fighting the uninformed negativity about the business everywhere.
    Cheers,
    JD

    1. Yup! Absolutely minor …. though we do have to be careful as every error we make, no matter how minor, is lept on by critics as us being dishonest. I’m not sure if Jeffrey had any other issues, that was just some things I noticed.

      Still a great article, keep it up!

  10. Hi JD,
    Well, it’s 70+yrs old only if you include Nutrilite pre-history, which some may argue against. Amway itself was founded 50 years ago in 1959. The oldest still running MLM is believed to be Wachters, founded in 1932, predating Nutrilite by 2 years, and Nutrilites MLM component didn’t come in until 1941.

    Where Amway is #1 in “their class” is also arguable. Number 1 in nutrition, yes. #1 in Health & Beauty online, yes. But not #1 in direct sales, Avon is. Avon also has a multi-level component these days so is arguably the #1 MLM.

    I also don’t thik it’s quite 90 countries – perhaps 90 countries and territories, ie autonomous regions like Γ…land in Scandinavia that aren’t really Sweden or Finland but is officially part of Finland.

    Finally, and this just may be due the way you’ve worded it, I doubt anyone became a multi-millionaire within 2 years. They may have become Diamond in that time, but not a multi-millionaire.

    Just minor πŸ™‚

  11. Hi. I am the author of the article ‘The Amway Phenomenon’. While I am most heartened about the response I have received, I too, like ‘JustGotIn’ would like to know, Jeffrey, what things are a bit off… you know, so that maybe I could correct or enhance them…
    Regards,
    J. D. Ranade

  12. Generally, it is a good post. There are a couple minor things that a bit off, but otherwise, a positive quick overview of the business, per his observations. Much better than most other stuff on the web about the business.

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