So a personal trainer, for example, can have his/her own studio or weight room, can not display Nutrilite stuff. However, they can personally promote to each of their clients and/or direct them to information or even give it out right there.

I am also glad that Quixtar/Amway is a bit tolerant with regards to the rules. We all have made stupid mistakes and probably will continue to do so, and it is nice they are not hardline with the rules. Especially when it is an honest mistake.

What is not appropriate, however, is to include your IBO number or contact information within comments posted for the world to see.

Note that - no contact information posted for the world to see. Your comments here have contact information, as do mine. You are identifiable as an IBO and are contactable from your posts.

Obviously the rules folk are using discretion and stretching them a little - but rules where folk need to use discretion are dumb rules … it leads to “stretching” of other rules by IBOs.

Not a mass spam job, which we’ve already talked about a few times.

I am really missing your point. They CAN promote in an online conversation. They just can’t solicit.

There is a difference.

And, what you are saying doesn’t even make sense, because your original post is about what Gary V. from Amway Global–the North American market–is saying. He’s talking about the Rules for one market.

So if you are trying to talk about ALL of Amway and ALL of their rules, then that is a much bigger issue and, actually, a different issue entirely, IMO.

My point is - so those folk can talk about and promote them in an offline conversation, but cannot do it in an online conversation.

They can. But technically, cannot do it at their same place of business–it goes back to the retail rule and Amway wanting to maintain an “even playing field”, person-to-person relationships.

In other words:

A make-up artist can promote Artistry, but not sell it at his/her salon.

A nutriionist can promote Nutrilite, but can’t sell it out of his/her office.

A hairdresser can promote Saninique but not sell it at his/her salon.

So I’ve seen people of these professions recommend product(s) and then give the person information on how to order online.

And I’ve also seen where, if the ordering and delivering is done offline, then it is not in the same physical place of business as another business.

Re: Level playing field. You are correct with regards to people’s lot in life, it isn’t fair or level by any means. However, what I was pointing out is the spirit of the Amway business is so that YOU, who is not a Rockefeller, can get in grow yourself, grow a business, without unfair competition from the Rockefellers in life.

Re: Your website. It is a straight violation of the rules to use one business to promote another, whether online or in the real world. It goes both ways. However, what you could promote with your cleaning business are all the benefits of the cleaning products you use (without naming them).

Ex. “We use safe, organic, chemical free, green cleaning products because your family deserves to be safe inside and outside of your house.”
Or something like that.

I did get approved for the yellow pages and did that for three years and all I got out of it was a great big bill with almost no results.

They prematurely announced pre-approved ad slicks two months ago that are still not ready. Don’t know what the holdup is with those but am anxious to see them and possibly use them.

One thing I don’t understand is that they want us to promote our websites, then say we need the human contact. One response to my websites link from the Opportunity Zone is from Georgia, and another one from Ohio. I live in Iowa. How personal is that? (But I’ll still take the PV and profit from the orders.)