The Internet War Against Amway

This is perhaps the most important post I have written, it’s my hope that Amway and the IBOAI is reading.

It’s been my opinion that a major component of Amway’s struggles for growth, particularly in english speaking markets, has been the Internet and Amway’s misguided decision some years ago to effectively leave Internet discussion about Amway to the critics (read Amway and the Internet – A History Part I). In my view, neither Amway nor any of the major leadership’s truly understand the magnitude of the effect that a relatively small number of internet critics have had on the Amway business.

Now I’ve got data to back it up, and it is far worse than even I imagined.

Last week Google introduced a new keyword tool for advertiser’s that provides them with statistics about “keywords” and how often people are searching on particular topics. You can find out how often people search for a particular term. I have done this for Amway and Quixtar keywords and the results are stunning. Combined with information from compete.com about Google’s share of the search engine market, and what folk then click on, the information is shocking.

More than once ever 2 seconds, someone in the world googles “Amway“.

In more exact terms, the keywords “Amway” or “Quixtar” are googled on average 1,069,000 times a month. Compete.com estimates that google has 68.7% of the search engine market.

This means “Amway” or “Quixtar” are searched for -

  • 1,556,400 times a month
  • 51,868 times a day
  • 2,161 times an hour
  • 36 times a minute
  • more than once every 2 seconds

Normally this should be a cause for celebration. A company should be delighted that people are searching for information about them. It’s an enormous opportunity. Or it should be,

In the case of Amway, it’s a disaster.

A cursory look at google’s search results for Amway shows why. Keep in mind that 68% of search users do not go past the first page of results and 92% don’t go past page 3. So what do they find on page one? Here’s what I get (note that it will vary for different people and different locations)

  1. Wikipedia article on Amway – while much much better than it was, this article still highlights criticism of Amway with virtually no reporting on the many positives.
  2. Amway official website
  3. Amway India official website
  4. Amway Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore official website
  5. Skeptic’s dictionary article on Amway – an old article heavily critical of the Amway business opportunity
  6. Dave Touretsky’s Amway/Alticor/Quixtar Sucks – a “free speech” advocate’s website, heavily critical of Amway and full of extremely outdated information, including “mirrors” of other negative websites
  7. Amway Australia official website
  8. Welcome to Amway: The Continuing Story - another old website extremely critical of Amway
  9. The Peril’s of Amway – very old website extremely critical of Amway
  10. Youtube – Amway Neighbour – a video making fun of Amway stereotypes.

Of the first 1 links, there are 4 corporate sites and 6 sites critical of the Amway business. Page 2 gets even worse, with 3 corporate sites and 7 critics sites. It’s not until page 3 you come across any non-corporate website with something positive to say, and that’s this site, The Truth About Amway. If you happen to be one of the few who goes further, it doesn’t get any better.

Google’s search results for Quixtar are much the same. If you do what most internet users do, which is use the internet to research something, your perspective of Amway and Quixtar is overwhelmingly going to be a negative one.

More than one person every two seconds is doing this.

In the US and Canada alone there are over 328,000 english searches every month for Amway or Quixtar. This doesn’t include searches for things like “Amway business” (nearly 3,000) or other possible terms. 328,000 searches on google equates to 48, searches across the major search engines like Yahoo, Live etc.

That’s 16,000 a day just in North America

Compete.com, through a number of mechanisms including ISP log files, toolbar data and research panels, also estimates what people in the english-speaking world actually click on from these results. Total number of “Amway” searches in the english speaking world is 44,000/mth or over 14,000/day. According to Compete.com, here’s the top 1 sites visited by “Amway” researchers the last 3 months -

  • 6.3% amway.com – Official site
  • 13.3% wikipedia.org – Critical of Amway
  • 4.9% cmu.edu – Touretsky’s anti-amway site
  • 4.6% skepdic.com – anti-amway article (see above)
  • 2.7% apollowebworks.com – anti-amway website (see above9
  • 2.3% yahoo.com – I’ve been unable to identify this site, probably an adclick
  • 1.6% webkinz.com – probably an adclick
  • 1.2% amway.com.au – Amway Australia
  • 1% msn.com – the Dateline NBC article critical of Quixtar
  • <1% quixtar.com – official site

Well over a quarter of all searches end up at a critical site. The results are similar for Quixtar (though Quixtar itself takes top place and other sites like Amquix move into the rankings.

So in North America alone, a minimum of a million searchers a year are getting a bad impression of Amway just because they did some internet research. Note that because of the way people surf the web, after visiting Alticor/Amway/Quixtar sucks, they’re clicking on the links on his site that only go to other critical sites (Touretsky refused a request from me to link to The Truth About Amway). The researchers thus continually get the “Amway – bad” idea reinforced. Now, obviously there’s going to be some overlap, with folk searching more than once (like me!) but this data also doesn’t include the more than a hundred thousand global monthly searches for things like “Britt World Wide” or “Network TwentyOne. It also ignores the fact that most people who click on amway.com probably also click on other links as well.

Does anyone believe this is not having a drastic effect on our business?

Still don’t believe me? Scott Larsen, who runs one of the better known critics websites, linked to by virtually all the other websites, regularly publishes correspondence he has received. A couple of years ago I went through every email he published over a 6 month period. Well over a third of them were people researching the business or brand new IBOs who decided to not join or quit because of what they read on his website. They hadn’t even had a “bad” experience – they quit because of what they read on Amquix.

A study by Forrestor research showed that people don’t trust obvious blogs so much, they do trust what they read on self-styled “consumer opinion sites” like Amquix and Pyramid Scheme alert. Wikipedia is considered authoritive by many people, and university hosted websites like Touretsky’s anti-amway site also have an appearance of officialdom.

Thousands of people a day are visting these sites, thousands of people a day are believing them

Still don’t believe me? Here’s a graph from compete.com with estimates of the traffic visiting The Truth About Amway with traffic visiting critics sites Amquix.info and Webraw.com (Quixtarblog). I can confirm from my own logs that the data for TTAA is roughly correct, I average around 700-1000 visits a day. The critics are getting at least ten times the traffic.

This year Amway is spending tens of millions of dollars on traditional advertising – television advertisements, newspaper ads, sponsorships. Millions of people are seeing these ads, and then doing what a sensible person would do – getting online to do more research. Hundreds of thousands of people this year will probablybe shown the Amway business opportunity this year in North America alone. Most of them will do what a sensible person would do – get online to do more research.

For Amway, it’s millions of dollars potentially wasted.

For Amway IBOs, it’s a disaster.

Drastic action is needed – NOW

(continued in The Internet War Against Amway Part II)

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16 Responses to “The Internet War Against Amway”


  1. 1 Isaac Johnson

    You make great points…I’m anxious to see what Amway/ Quixtar will do in regards to these numbers/ facts. I am registered as an IBO but not actively building the business (I completely believe in the business and the leaders in my organization but I’m currently working on a start-up that I started right before I got sponsored). Thank you for all the work you do…it was because of websites like yours that I decided to become an IBO.

  2. 2 Jeff Namnum

    This is a great post. Well written and backed up with the numbers to make the case. It seems obvious that Amway is making the move to tackle these issues, and I’ll be bringing this to my Diamond’s attention too.

    Thanks for all you do.

  3. 3 Therese

    I am confused. I have gotten negative comments on my blog on a post I did on Amway. They have went into my Spam folder, exactly where they belong, if they were balanced comments or educated than I would leave them up, but they are not. Now, the reason I am confused is this, on the comments the e-mail address for them reads: ibo_fightback@yahoo.com, so I looked it up and I come to your website. Why would they use your e-mail, is that your e-mail?

  4. 4 ibofightback

    That’s absolutely not me. There are one or more Amway critics who have decided I am Amway-critic enemy #1 and are impersonating me.

  5. 5 Bridgett

    Hi Therese!

    Well, one good thing that came out of the critics finding your blog and slamming you and Amway, is that their fake email address led you to here. :)

  6. 6 keyurkeyur

    hi ibofightback,

    first of all , i thank you for this website which has helped me clear my perception of amway.

    secondly what i feel and understand from the above post is that people around the world are becoming more and more pessimistic. if you see the trend , people like to visit a critics website more than a website which shows you the truth or the positive side.

    Enormous efforts are needed to transform people from inside out. to move them from negative to positive or atleast to neutral so that they can see the truth.

    If Yoda would have been here then he would have definitely said, “The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see the future is.”

  7. 7 Elle

    My husband and I became IBOs to buy the great products at a discount – we love the Nutrilite vitamins and i love the Artistry Essentials skin care (I tried others but none compare to the way my skin feels with Artistry). If someone brings up a negative comment about Amway or Quixtar, I keep it friendly but challenge them as to why they think that, and they basically say it’s because so-and-so’s uncle was in it and didn’t make any money, or there were pushy IBOs of the past. So nobody’s perfect–look at other MLMs out there–but I stick to my guns with the produts for one simple reason: they work! so i ask them have they ever tried the products, they say no, and then i either give them a sample if they’re willing to try. sometimes it takes a conviction like that for people to see that the products are great. by the way, great site!

  8. 8 Brad Miller

    The trouble that Amway has is that much of the negative content is true. As a former Platinum Direct I know. I lived it.

    The company has done a lot of good thing without a doubt. One of them is cleaning up the tool scams. To little to late perhaps.
    When the company continues to stand behind king pins like Dexter Yeager and Hal Gooch (clearly Yeager is corrupt) I have to question their integrity and some of the negative press is deserved.

  9. 9 ibofightback

    Brad, how do you know what the corp has or hasn’t done with regards Yager/Gooch? Dexter Yager appears to have effectively retired long ago and handed the reins to his children who run the show nowadays. Gooch I haven’t heard boo about in years, apart from the never-ending Bruce Anderson saga. Apart from old stories on the ‘net Are Hal Gooch and Dexter Yager relevant in 2009? Are they relevant to the majority of Amway that never had anything to do with either of them?

  10. 10 Pedro Sanchez.

    I’m familiar with amway since 1977. I do support amway 100%. this is a good inviornment product. all amway product sold to our client on 1977 were very satisfy consumers. we must do our best to adjust the inviornmental World. and this is one of the key that is need it. Pedro C Sanchez doing his best to conserve our planet, education on our new Genaration should be teach on terms of safety products, I thanks Amway for all clean inviornmental product. Sinceramente su Amigo Pedro C Sanchez.

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