Comments on: The Internet War Against Amway http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/the-internet-war-against-amway/ Get the Facts about Amway Global Thu, 09 Sep 2010 08:53:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Ernest C http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/the-internet-war-against-amway/comment-page-1/#comment-5684 Ernest C Sun, 11 Jul 2010 07:53:25 +0000 #comment-5684 I appreciate what you are doing to show others what some of us have known for Decades, and others may or may not learn. The company are those who traversed in the trenches of their former selves, to emerge into whom they are today. You can never Hire someone to do that. Because true freedom must always cost us something, and yet have a greater reward that price can never pay. I BELIEVE THAT THIS BUSINESS HAS BEEN A DOORWAY TO FORM CHARACTER IN THOSE WHO OPEN THEIR HEARTS TO TRUST, BELIEF, DREAM, AND PERSEVERE. FROM A FORMER IBO 1996 I appreciate what you are doing to show others what some of us have known for Decades, and others may or may not learn. The company are those who traversed in the trenches of their former selves, to emerge into whom they are today. You can never Hire someone to do that. Because true freedom must always cost us something, and yet have a greater reward that price can never pay. I BELIEVE THAT THIS BUSINESS HAS BEEN A DOORWAY TO FORM CHARACTER IN THOSE WHO OPEN THEIR HEARTS TO TRUST, BELIEF, DREAM, AND PERSEVERE. FROM A FORMER IBO 1996

]]> By: Noonles http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/the-internet-war-against-amway/comment-page-1/#comment-5332 Noonles Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:40:13 +0000 #comment-5332 I understand the need for this site and what you are saying in this article. Recently there has been a new head executive in the New Zealand and Australian market with Amway that is changing things a lot within the company. One of the first things he did was to set up a strategic task force made up of leading IBOs in the market to talk and strategize directly with Amway!! This is a MAJOR deal because for those of you building, as we know, what actually works is often different to what people think. I know that they are pushing to enforce real facts (Libby Tricket campaign) and I am all for it. At the end of the day, some will some wont, it doesn't bother me too much. It is a self weeding garden. But people need to view the real facts to get the real story. Thanks for the work you do. N I understand the need for this site and what you are saying in this article. Recently there has been a new head executive in the New Zealand and Australian market with Amway that is changing things a lot within the company. One of the first things he did was to set up a strategic task force made up of leading IBOs in the market to talk and strategize directly with Amway!! This is a MAJOR deal because for those of you building, as we know, what actually works is often different to what people think. I know that they are pushing to enforce real facts (Libby Tricket campaign) and I am all for it.

At the end of the day, some will some wont, it doesn’t bother me too much. It is a self weeding garden. But people need to view the real facts to get the real story. Thanks for the work you do.

N

]]> By: Nick http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/the-internet-war-against-amway/comment-page-1/#comment-5064 Nick Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:49:13 +0000 #comment-5064 I find your website the most refreshing. I was into Quixtar several years ago, and was fiercely dedicated while at this time I was in the Navy. The largest check I made was about $235. But that as MY FAULT. The true principles of sales and the correct way to run a business are taught in Amway, and were taught in Quixtar. Any business with people can have corrupt ones, but to say that all of them are the same is a very close-minded and uneducated response. There are some truths to some of the alegations. But the problem I have is that there is so much good in my life that was taught by the system. The success system is beneficial in all aspects. Unfortunately, I left my IBOship years ago, after I was convinced I'd failed. Since then, I've been a leader in every job that I've had, and have almost always been a favorite and hard worker of the boss. Why? Cause I learned how to think like one. If you have something negative to say, back it up. I can say that although I spent tons of money, time, and didn't understand it at the time, I was developing talents and skills that I implement five years since I listened to a tape or went to a function. Explain that...naysaysers...You may not get rich, but to get smarter in business and people relations will make you wealthy beyond your dreams in other senses...of course, the best part about freedom is that you have the choice, to say yes or no. Just don't kill someone else's dream because you don't agree. That in any sense makes you lower than life and proves you are weak. In the long run, it shadows your cause and raises those who would support you against you. Please, save your anger and put your efforts into succeeding elsewhere in life. I find your website the most refreshing. I was into Quixtar several years ago, and was fiercely dedicated while at this time I was in the Navy. The largest check I made was about $235. But that as MY FAULT. The true principles of sales and the correct way to run a business are taught in Amway, and were taught in Quixtar. Any business with people can have corrupt ones, but to say that all of them are the same is a very close-minded and uneducated response.
There are some truths to some of the alegations. But the problem I have is that there is so much good in my life that was taught by the system. The success system is beneficial in all aspects. Unfortunately, I left my IBOship years ago, after I was convinced I’d failed. Since then, I’ve been a leader in every job that I’ve had, and have almost always been a favorite and hard worker of the boss. Why? Cause I learned how to think like one. If you have something negative to say, back it up.
I can say that although I spent tons of money, time, and didn’t understand it at the time, I was developing talents and skills that I implement five years since I listened to a tape or went to a function. Explain that…naysaysers…You may not get rich, but to get smarter in business and people relations will make you wealthy beyond your dreams in other senses…of course, the best part about freedom is that you have the choice, to say yes or no.
Just don’t kill someone else’s dream because you don’t agree. That in any sense makes you lower than life and proves you are weak. In the long run, it shadows your cause and raises those who would support you against you. Please, save your anger and put your efforts into succeeding elsewhere in life.

]]> By: Bridgett http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/the-internet-war-against-amway/comment-page-1/#comment-5015 Bridgett Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:22:45 +0000 #comment-5015 Just to clarify the customer rules in North America... It used to be, per month: 10 customers OR $100 in sales OR 50 PV Now the requirement is 50 PV to registered customers. And the requirement is not to keep your IBOship or to earn personal bonuses and retail differential or maintain a PV bracket. It's a requirement if you want to earn bonus differential on downline volume. If you have downline differential money coming to you, but do not meet the 50 PV customer requirement, then that money will go to your upline Platinum. Just to clarify the customer rules in North America…

It used to be, per month:

10 customers
OR
$100 in sales
OR
50 PV

Now the requirement is 50 PV to registered customers.

And the requirement is not to keep your IBOship or to earn personal bonuses and retail differential or maintain a PV bracket. It’s a requirement if you want to earn bonus differential on downline volume.

If you have downline differential money coming to you, but do not meet the 50 PV customer requirement, then that money will go to your upline Platinum.

]]> By: ibofightback http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/the-internet-war-against-amway/comment-page-1/#comment-5013 ibofightback Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:58:16 +0000 #comment-5013 Charles, thanks for your comments. Actually I believe the 10 customer rule went out in the US some years back. I agree though with much of what you're saying - trying to sell the opportunity as simply an online mall and redirect your shopping simply doesn't work ... it cuts the margins too thin and damages profitability. What's more, when you look at the past decade as an "internet opportunity" it's targeted to young "internet hip" people who probably aren't purchasing products of Amway's quality and price range before. Too many people seem to have had it marketed to them as "save 30% on your own shopping" when that's not at all reflective of what their experience will be like. Charles, thanks for your comments. Actually I believe the 10 customer rule went out in the US some years back. I agree though with much of what you’re saying – trying to sell the opportunity as simply an online mall and redirect your shopping simply doesn’t work … it cuts the margins too thin and damages profitability. What’s more, when you look at the past decade as an “internet opportunity” it’s targeted to young “internet hip” people who probably aren’t purchasing products of Amway’s quality and price range before. Too many people seem to have had it marketed to them as “save 30% on your own shopping” when that’s not at all reflective of what their experience will be like.

]]> By: Charles Miller http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/the-internet-war-against-amway/comment-page-1/#comment-5010 Charles Miller Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:57:19 +0000 #comment-5010 Very interesting site and information. I have been associated with Amway in someway since 1978. I have purchased products used them in a janitorial business. I can attest to the push to buy books and tapes. I did not always buy tapes. Interestingly when i was in insurance there was an incredible push to buy tapes there too. I think what so many people are angry about is (1) don't tell anyone it's Amway until they see the business. (2) is the push to sponsor, redirect your own purchasing buy purchasing your own products and teaching others to do the same. Number (3) is the lack of attention to actually selling products. To build any business one must move product at retail as well as wholesale. Amway has always had a 10 customer rule but to the best of my knowledge never enforced it. fortunately this year because of technology Amway is requiring an IBO to build a balanced business and will financially reward IBO's who do. As for me i will not sponsor anyone until I have 25 solid customers. This way I can say I am making money and will be able to then teach others how to do the same. Notice my website is to the health and fitness product line. Thanks for your good work here. Charles Very interesting site and information. I have been associated with Amway in someway since 1978. I have purchased products used them in a janitorial business. I can attest to the push to buy books and tapes. I did not always buy tapes. Interestingly when i was in insurance there was an incredible push to buy tapes there too. I think what so many people are angry about is (1) don’t tell anyone it’s Amway until they see the business. (2) is the push to sponsor, redirect your own purchasing buy purchasing your own products and teaching others to do the same. Number (3) is the lack of attention to actually selling products. To build any business one must move product at retail as well as wholesale. Amway has always had a 10 customer rule but to the best of my knowledge never enforced it. fortunately this year because of technology Amway is requiring an IBO to build a balanced business and will financially reward IBO’s who do. As for me i will not sponsor anyone until I have 25 solid customers. This way I can say I am making money and will be able to then teach others how to do the same. Notice my website is to the health and fitness product line.

Thanks for your good work here.

Charles

]]> By: marius http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/the-internet-war-against-amway/comment-page-1/#comment-4351 marius Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:19:17 +0000 #comment-4351 i just wish the other mlm's out there had as much negatives online as amway does, to even out the competition. yet amway grows every year, faster than any other mlm. this proves amway will remain the industry leader just remember, people are not as intelligent as they seem - people are actually very dumb creatures. only the few smart ones get to the top. the dumb ones waste time by making all these anti amway sites. good luck to all. i just wish the other mlm’s out there had as much negatives online as amway does, to even out the competition.

yet amway grows every year, faster than any other mlm. this proves amway will remain the industry leader

just remember, people are not as intelligent as they seem – people are actually very dumb creatures. only the few smart ones get to the top. the dumb ones waste time by making all these anti amway sites.

good luck to all.

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]]> By: Pedro Sanchez. http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/the-internet-war-against-amway/comment-page-1/#comment-4067 Pedro Sanchez. Mon, 25 May 2009 02:25:24 +0000 #comment-4067 I'm familiar with amway since 1977. I do support amway 100%. this is a good inviornment product. all amway product sold to our client on 1977 were very satisfy consumers. we must do our best to adjust the inviornmental World. and this is one of the key that is need it. Pedro C Sanchez doing his best to conserve our planet, education on our new Genaration should be teach on terms of safety products, I thanks Amway for all clean inviornmental product. Sinceramente su Amigo Pedro C Sanchez. I’m familiar with amway since 1977. I do support amway 100%. this is a good inviornment product. all amway product sold to our client on 1977 were very satisfy consumers. we must do our best to adjust the inviornmental World. and this is one of the key that is need it. Pedro C Sanchez doing his best to conserve our planet, education on our new Genaration should be teach on terms of safety products, I thanks Amway for all clean inviornmental product. Sinceramente su Amigo Pedro C Sanchez.

]]> By: ibofightback http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/the-internet-war-against-amway/comment-page-1/#comment-3958 ibofightback Sat, 02 May 2009 18:34:39 +0000 #comment-3958 Brad, how do you know what the corp has or hasn't done with regards Yager/Gooch? Dexter Yager appears to have effectively retired long ago and handed the reins to his children who run the show nowadays. Gooch I haven't heard boo about in years, apart from the never-ending Bruce Anderson saga. Apart from old stories on the 'net Are Hal Gooch and Dexter Yager relevant in 2009? Are they relevant to the majority of Amway that never had anything to do with either of them? Brad, how do you know what the corp has or hasn’t done with regards Yager/Gooch? Dexter Yager appears to have effectively retired long ago and handed the reins to his children who run the show nowadays. Gooch I haven’t heard boo about in years, apart from the never-ending Bruce Anderson saga. Apart from old stories on the ‘net Are Hal Gooch and Dexter Yager relevant in 2009? Are they relevant to the majority of Amway that never had anything to do with either of them?

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