Category Archives: Critics of Amway

BLOG: What does QuixtarBlog look like to an independent observer?

Have you ever wondered what an independent observer thinks about the conversations that go on over at QuixtarBlog forums? Read on and find out.

In my commentary about the new site Quixtar Conversations I mentioned the possibility that Quixtar had been “Scobleized“. Scobleizer is a blog by ex-Microsoft employee and general tech geek/guru Robert Scoble. In the post I referenced, Robert mentioned that he had been meeting with Quixtar staff and advising them on how to go about “engaging” people on the internet, both IBOs and critics. Both Beth Dornan from Quixtar PR and Eric Janssen of QuixtarBlog posted comments on the blog, however what struck me was a post from a fellow called Allan Tui.

Allan mentions he is being introduced to the world of blogs by a friend who is an expert in the field. One evening they started at Robert Scoble’s blog, and taking his suggestion checked out the websites by Nestle and Quixtar and also reviewed the comments. He states –

There were some obviously emotional comments about Quixtar and a long post from a Quixtar consumer advocate named Eric Janssen.

Did I read that correctly? Eric Janssen a Quixtar consumer advocate? Yes indeed – in his comments Eric says

I started an independent consumer advocate blog about Quixtar in November, 2002.

Allan continues with some interesting comments on this claim, the QuixtarBlog forums, and the so-called Quixtar “google-bombing”. Details below the fold.

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BLOG: What does QuixtarBlog look like to an independent observer?

Have you ever wondered what an independent observer thinks about the conversations that go on over at QuixtarBlog forums? Read on and find out.

In my commentary about the new site Quixtar Conversations I mentioned the possibility that Quixtar had been "Scobleized". Scobleizer is a blog by ex-Microsoft employee and general tech geek/guru Robert Scoble. In the post I referenced, Robert mentioned that he had been meeting with Quixtar staff and advising them on how to go about "engaging" people on the internet, both IBOs and critics. Both Beth Dornan from Quixtar PR and Eric Janssen of QuixtarBlog posted comments on the blog, however what struck me was a post from a fellow called Allan Tui.

Allan mentions he is being introduced to the world of blogs by a friend who is an expert in the field. One evening they started at Robert Scoble's blog, and taking his suggestion checked out the websites by Nestle and Quixtar and also reviewed the comments. He states –

There were some obviously emotional comments about Quixtar and a long post from a Quixtar consumer advocate named Eric Janssen.

Did I read that correctly? Eric Janssen a Quixtar consumer advocate? Yes indeed – in his comments Eric says

I started an independent consumer advocate blog about Quixtar in November, 22.

Allan continues with some interesting comments on this claim, the QuixtarBlog forums, and the so-called Quixtar "google-bombing". Details below the fold.

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BLOG: Eric Scheibeler & Pyramid Scheme Alert – Scammers?

I was visiting the website of Pyramid Scheme Alert, a bogus "consumer organization" that purportes to target illegal pyramids, but instead spends most of it's time targetting legitimate Multi-level Marketing companies. While browsing through the site, I noticed this

The Amway/Quixtar Scheme is seeking to suppress the research and testimony of PSA Director, Eric Scheibeler. Please help with a contribution to the Legal Defense Fund.

And then some links for people to donate via PayPal or by mail

Which lead me to ask – what legal case are they asking for donations for?

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BLOG: Eric Scheibeler & Pyramid Scheme Alert – Scammers?

I was visiting the website of Pyramid Scheme Alert, a bogus "consumer organization" that purportes to target illegal pyramids, but instead spends most of it's time targetting legitimate Multi-level Marketing companies. While browsing through the site, I noticed this

The Amway/Quixtar Scheme is seeking to suppress the research and testimony of PSA Director, Eric Scheibeler. Please help with a contribution to the Legal Defense Fund.

And then some links for people to donate via PayPal or by mail

Which lead me to ask – what legal case are they asking for donations for?

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MYTH: 70% Retail Sales Rule

Is it dishonesty or just ignorance? If you search around the posts of critics of Amway and Quixtar on the internet, something you’ll see regularly is reference to something like “The 70% Retail Sales Rule”.

Here for example, on Pyramid Scheme Alert, the claim is made

A 70% retail requirement level has been applied in various agreements between state Attorneys General offices and multi-level marketing companies charged with violating pyramid scheme statutes.

and

At least 70% of product must be sold at retail to consumers who are not also Amway distributors.

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Amway/Quixtar critic Scott Larsen is full of s**t …. again

This week, Scott Larsen posted an article "Alticor: The pot calling the kettle black" accusing Alticor of deliberately omitting information as to what an illegal pyramid is. Larsen goes and pulls out lots of quotes from FTC cases with a definition of what a pyramid is. But Larsen, doing exactly what he accuses Alticor of doing, omits important information – like for example the FTC explicitly stating that you can’t do what Larsen is doing! In this official staff advisory letter responding to an enquiry by the Direct Selling Assocation (DSA), the FTC Director of the Division of Marketing Practices, James A Kohm, says –

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Amway/Quixtar critic Scott Larsen is full of s**t …. again

This week, Scott Larsen posted an article "Alticor: The pot calling the kettle black" accusing Alticor of deliberately omitting information as to what an illegal pyramid is. Larsen goes and pulls out lots of quotes from FTC cases with a definition of what a pyramid is. But Larsen, doing exactly what he accuses Alticor of doing, omits important information – like for example the FTC explicitly stating that you can’t do what Larsen is doing! In this official staff advisory letter responding to an enquiry by the Direct Selling Assocation (DSA), the FTC Director of the Division of Marketing Practices, James A Kohm, says –

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